View Full Version : Is it possible to eliminate swirls with a PC?
insmanblue
12-17-2009, 04:48 PM
I bought a PC 7424 a couple years back and I never could eliminate swirls. I use orange, white and grey pads. I have used Finesse-it II, Sonus Swirl Buster and Ultra Cutting Creme Light and no luck. Even though I have a dark blue car, I can live with some swirls but I would like to get rite of most of them. I use a two bucket system to wash the car and dry with MF. Is there a polish I should be using? Or do I need to buy a rotary? Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.
jswhitley
12-17-2009, 05:09 PM
m105 with a cutting pad via kbm has proven to be very powerful
A PC can go right down to bare metal, so yes it can remove swirls. You haven`t given us many clues as to how much product you used, how many passes, what results you saw....etc.
Poordude
12-17-2009, 05:28 PM
I have had the same problem with my pc. I don,t mean to hijack this thread but rather show some interest. The most aggressive combo I have tried is a lc 5" orange pad & meg uc.
proman3998
12-17-2009, 06:01 PM
im not a pro, but i did this with a porter cable
BEFORE
http://paulandtarawedding.com/cimg1697.jpg
AFTER
http://paulandtarawedding.com/cimg1730.jpg
BEFORE
http://paulandtarawedding.com/cimg1706.jpg
AFTER
http://paulandtarawedding.com/cimg1735.jpg
BEFORE
http://paulandtarawedding.com/cimg1720.jpg
AFTER
http://paulandtarawedding.com/cimg1721.jpg
So I think the porter cable can remove swirls :buffing:
Some severe scratching, looks like someone took steel wool or something to the paint:
http://datasmuggler.com/images/paint/element_roof_before.jpg
After some ZPC on a yellow megs pad using the PC at speed 5:
http://datasmuggler.com/images/paint/element_roof_after.jpg
tssdetailing
12-17-2009, 06:59 PM
is it bad I get wood looking at after shots?
Thomas Dekany
12-17-2009, 07:53 PM
I bought a PC 7424 a couple years back and I never could eliminate swirls. I use orange, white and grey pads. I have used Finesse-it II, Sonus Swirl Buster and Ultra Cutting Creme Light and no luck. Even though I have a dark blue car, I can live with some swirls but I would like to get rite of most of them. I use a two bucket system to wash the car and dry with MF. Is there a polish I should be using? Or do I need to buy a rotary? Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.
Takes time but HD UNO and the orange UNO pad will do what you are looking for.
HowardPearson
12-17-2009, 07:59 PM
PC on 6, 4" LC orange pad, and Meg`s 105 should be able to take care of 95% of the paint defects out there.
A rotary might do it faster but the above combo should get the job done.
vtec92civic
12-17-2009, 08:09 PM
PC`s are great and can do most everything . . . . . it just takes a bit longer to accomplish things.
gmblack3
12-17-2009, 08:31 PM
See my sig for tips on the KBM.
rwisejr
12-17-2009, 08:52 PM
Listen to Bryan he does amazing work with the PC and the KBM method
xbbsupra
12-17-2009, 10:42 PM
I had the exact same problem until I switched to M105/M205. Pretty easy to use and it was my first time!
insmanblue
12-18-2009, 10:19 AM
Thanks for the responses everyone. I guess the answer is to use m105 and m205 with the orange pad. Bryan the step by step you have will be very helpful. I`m just glad to know that some you are producing great results with the PC.
Accumulator
12-18-2009, 12:06 PM
Thanks for the responses everyone. I guess the answer is to use m105 and m205 with the orange pad..
Note that I find I still need to use 4" pads to do significant correction via PC. Yeah, I know...I`ve talked this through with everyone from Mike Phillips to Kevin Brown, and I just don`t get the same big-pad results that they do :nixweiss
But with 4" pads, and/or LC 3.5" PFW, sure, the PC can do most anything, especially now that M105 is available. And then there`s the SurBuf pad option...