View Full Version : will megs #205 replace my tried & tru #80 ??
steck
11-23-2009, 08:58 AM
havent kept up to all this #105 and #205 stuff...
still using old school #85,#83 and finally #80 as my basic steps, but wondering where #205 fits in ??
edumacate me..
I haven`t touched my #84,#83,#82 and #80 since the 105/205 combo. Its way more work, for less results.
imported_DJ Mayo
11-23-2009, 09:24 AM
The one thing I do like about #80 and will use it is if the person is looking to simply sell the car.
Rob Tomlin
11-23-2009, 09:42 AM
Since I am "done" trying every sealant under the sun (practically) I am now on a mission to try a bunch of different polishes.
M205 will be purchased in the next week.
Accumulator
11-23-2009, 09:52 AM
I still kinda prefer #80 on single stage for a number of reasons, one of which is the way it`s finish is *not* leave quite as sharply reflective. Different looks for different applications.
Also, there are cases when I *want* to leave more of the Meguiar`s Trade Secret Oils behind (not just for concealing) and/or want the fresh-paint-safe polymers. The oils that M205 leaves behind aren`t the same sort of stuff by a long shot; it` s not the same sort of pretty-long-lived glaze effect, with M205 it`s just residual polishing oils.
Finally, the abrasives are just *different*. It`s sorta like those in M205 are simply sharper whereas the ones in #80 are bigger, or something.. :nixweiss No, it`s not like they just have more cut that the initial bite of #80, just a different *sort* of bite. I know I`m not verbalizing that well, but they`re just two different types of polish.
Mike Phillips has mentioned using #80 *before* M205 in some cases, but I don`t recall his rationale for doing so :think:
craigdt
11-23-2009, 11:22 AM
Its time you joined the modern era...
As always, there are still those who will prefer the older products, but overall, it sure is a hard product to beat.
CleanGSR
11-23-2009, 11:27 AM
I`m in the same boat. I still use M80 and am about out....wondering if I should just replace it with M205, but don`t know much about it.
How is the cut of M205 vs. M80? Which cuts faster? Which leaves a nicer finish? These are the three questions that matter to me. I`ve been very happy with M80 so am apprehensive to switch....even to another Megs product.
Accumulator
11-23-2009, 12:00 PM
How is the cut of M205 vs. M80? Which cuts faster? Which leaves a nicer finish?
M205 cuts more and faster, especially on harder clear. It also finishes out nicer.
Envious Eric
11-23-2009, 01:06 PM
The one thing I do like about #80 and will use it is if the person is looking to simply sell the car.
or those people who haggle on price...!!! $30/gal vs. $80/gal....hmmmm tough choice, especially when you throw in compounding the hood for free to deal with water spots!
imported_DJ Mayo
11-23-2009, 01:18 PM
Well #80 fills enough and looks great so if they are selling and not worried about correction, 80 is perfect for the job. it`s cheap to buy and will cover enough to get the car sold.
CleanGSR
11-23-2009, 02:01 PM
M205 cuts more and faster, especially on harder clear. It also finishes out nicer.
Awesome...thanks for the info. Looks like I`ll be getting some soon.
Rob Tomlin
11-23-2009, 08:28 PM
M205 cuts more and faster, especially on harder clear. It also finishes out nicer.
Lets see: M205 cuts 1) more 2) faster 3) especially on hard clears 4) finishes out nicer.
M80: 1) finish is *not* quite as sharply reflective which is good for SS paint.
Sounds like M205 FTW in most situations.
Scottwax
11-23-2009, 10:31 PM
I still kinda prefer #80 on single stage for a number of reasons, one of which is the way it`s finish is *not* leave quite as sharply reflective. Different looks for different applications.
Agreed. Meguiars 80 series products are good to keep around for single stage paint. #80 followed by Ultrafina (both via rotary) looked incredible on a customer`s red 348 Spider.
When it comes to clear coats, #205 is hard to beat.
Accumulator
11-24-2009, 10:23 AM
Lets see: M205 cuts 1) more 2) faster 3) especially on hard clears 4) finishes out nicer.
M80: 1) finish is *not* quite as sharply reflective which is good for SS paint.
Sounds like M205 FTW in most situations.
Yeah, in *most* situations.
As ScottWax noted, those of us working on SS, or with weirdly specific considerations/goals in mind, might be the only people who really need to keep #80 on the shelf these days.
The last time I used #80 was on some (poorly :rolleyes: ) repainted wheels. It cleaned/polished/protected them quite well during the curing process. And I can`t help but think that the "softer" abrasives in #80 might`ve been a better idea on the Yukon`s wheels, which M205 seemed to (very lightly) haze.
Also, I can`t help but think how M80 does *not* have the "residual oils" issue that can plague M205. Not sure if/how that factors in, but it`s worth mentioning.
steck
11-26-2009, 09:43 PM
so M80 is so `yesterday`..got it.
i`ll do the 105/205 in spring when the fever hits...
not being around for awhile, is this process pretty fool proof:
105 with rotary (say white pad) and 205 with PC (also white pad) ??