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Apollo_Auto
06-09-2009, 01:47 PM
So I`m sitting here having a beer and realxing after a long day`s work and my phone rings after my son`s already gone to bed... It`s my annoying customer calling me again at night time after I`ve asked him not to. I`ve got this customer that well, from the first telephone call, annoyed the $h1t out of me and my wife (who took the all) from the get-go. He had a million questions about this and that and just kept repeating himself, etc. Long story short, he washed his car with a Brillo pad, no wait, he maimed literally), his car with a Brillo pad. Here`s a piccie:



http://apolloauto.hu/images/corolla/4.JPG



If you`d like to and can bear the site of it, you can view the whole murder report here Toyota Corolla Skinned Alive (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=82205)



Anyhoo, I polished the guy`s car about a year ago and TBH there was just no end to the scratches... they were like Gremlins that sprouted with polish instead of water. I didn`t have a PTG at the time, but the good sense ````` told me that a once-over with a wool pad and flattening it out with a polishing pad was about all I could pull off safely. I removed what scratches I could with that combo and called it a day. Now, 1 year later, he`s still complaining that there`s little cob webs in his paint... I`ve explained it to him 1,000 times that he`s the one that destroyed his paint work and there`s no fixing it, you can`t polish it out much more (I measured his paint also... 100`s-80`s and my friend`s Corolla is in the 120`s-140`s), and that I personally WILL NOT polish it again. Seriously the guy`s not the sharpest tool in the shed, but he just keeps PERSISTING that we polish his car again and he`s more or less insinuating that I didn`t do a good job on it.



I`m going to him on Saturday to put dressing on the back part of his trunk that I missed last week (because the guy just won`t stop nagging me and taking to me when I`m cleaning his car... I`m a man, I can only do 1 thing at a time) and he wants me to polish his car again, as well. As you have probably already gathered, I`ve lost my patience with this imbecile, as I`ve explained to him a millionbazillion times that I`m not polishing his car again. Now here`s my dilemma (sorry about the long build up, but I`m venting):



He`s a loyal customer who calls me about every 3 months to do his car. He also buys products from me, but not enough to do everything yet. Do I...



1. Tell him AGAIN politely that I`m not polishing his car and tell him to go to someone else to have it done.



2. Tell him I`ll polish his car for an exuberant sum of money and that he needs to sign a waiver "relinquishing me from any and all damage that may be incurred in the polishing process and/or damage that may be caused in the future as a result of polishing."



3. Sell him some polish and tell him to do it himself.



4. Tell him that I don`t need his business if he`s going to be so pushy and stubborn.



5. Break his rotten teeth out and shove them under his toenails.



Now both options #1 and #2 have catches to them. If he goes to someone else to have it polished chances are they`re going to do "a fabulous job". This guy is a "placebo effect" case... you can tell him that the rain feels much drier due to the high nitrogen levels in the air today and he`ll agree with you. So then, I look like the doof that couldn`t polish his car well at all, although I`ve seen work that the other guys do and well... he`ll think it`s better anyway just because he paid for it. #2, if I polish his car again, regardless of how many scratches I take out it will still look like poop on a stick. BUT, he`ll say that it looks MUCH better. I polished his bumpers again last week with a finishing pad and a a finishing polish and he said it looks SO much better...



http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc28/mstriano/AchmedtheDeadTerrorist-1.jpg



I`m for #5, but open to any other suggestions...

Deep Gloss Auto Salon
06-09-2009, 02:01 PM
Is this guys business worth the agravation?



Seems like you have been a nice guy and politely "spoon fed" him all this information multiple times....



Of all the choices I would just say that this car is beyond repair due to thin paint.

Apollo_Auto
06-09-2009, 02:05 PM
Is this guys business worth the agravation?



Seems like you have been a nice guy and politely "spoon fed" him all this information multiple times....



Of all the choices I would just say that this car is beyond repair due to thin paint.



Yeah well he`s not worth the aggravation. Especially when he`s the reason I have to go back and correct something. He`s also been to a body shop and even they said that the hood needs to be repainted, but they said the sides could be polished a "bit more". If I polish it a bit more and make the big scratches into little ones, it`s still scratched... what`s the point? He doesn`t get it.

Deep Gloss Auto Salon
06-09-2009, 02:08 PM
Yeah well he`s not worth the aggravation. Especially when he`s the reason I have to go back and correct something. He`s also been to a body shop and even they said that the hood needs to be repainted, but they said the sides could be polished a "bit more". If I polish it a bit more and make the big scratches into little ones, it`s still scratched... what`s the point? He doesn`t get it.



Yep, and he never will get it.



Time to cut him loose!

yamichi
06-09-2009, 02:16 PM
If he`s a big nerd (the nitrogen reference) use the data from the paint tester. Use lots of big words and technobabble. Make sure he realizes (though it sounds like he won`t understand) how messed up it is but mostly just make sure you use lots of technobabble. He`ll love it.

1- sucks. lose a customer.

2- sucks more. Even if you warn him, he`ll complain and your business doesn`t need bad reviews.

3- sucks between one and two. if he screws it up and says he followed your advice... see number 2.

4- nah.

5- WIN!

Apollo_Auto
06-09-2009, 02:33 PM
If he`s a big nerd (the nitrogen reference) use the data from the paint tester. Use lots of big words and technobabble. Make sure he realizes (though it sounds like he won`t understand) how messed up it is but mostly just make sure you use lots of technobabble. He`ll love it.

1- sucks. lose a customer.

2- sucks more. Even if you warn him, he`ll complain and your business doesn`t need bad reviews.

3- sucks between one and two. if he screws it up and says he followed your advice... see number 2.

4- nah.

5- WIN!



OK, I`m leaning more toward #5 now... I`ve thrown every technical term at him that I could think of and when I speak to him he`s always got the "5 minutes to Wapner" look on his face...

imported_Picus
06-09-2009, 02:51 PM
We all have customers like this. You`ve done all you can as a professional businessman. It`s time to cut him loose.

Apollo_Auto
06-09-2009, 02:58 PM
We all have customers like this. You`ve done all you can as a professional businessman. It`s time to cut him loose.



Thanks Kev... though how exactly should I "cut" him??? :D:D:D

imported_ZimRandy
06-09-2009, 03:18 PM
Burn through the clear, burn through the paint, and polish the bare metal.



Convince him that white is boring and the raw look is the new trend.



Change a lot for the `color changing` detail service.





:nixweiss



Maybe you can sell him a weekly sealant package to prevent the bare metal from rusting, too?



Good luck.



Randy

Apollo_Auto
06-09-2009, 03:25 PM
Burn through the clear, burn through the paint, and polish the bare metal.



Convince him that white is boring and the raw look is the new trend.



Change a lot for the `color changing` detail service.





:nixweiss



Maybe you can sell him a weekly sealant package to prevent the bare metal from rusting, too?



Good luck.



Randy



Thanks for the insight, Randy but I`ve already canceled that option out... that would mean that I`d have to listen to his $h1t and look at his rotten teeth every week... which would inevitably move me closer and closer to #5... SO, your vote`s for #5 then?? :D

IBStoney1
06-09-2009, 03:46 PM
You are getting too worked up over this client.



Be nice, polite and firm that you are now longer his detailer for this car.



From my experience you will feel great after "firing" this guy.

al

imported_Picus
06-09-2009, 03:50 PM
Thanks Kev... though how exactly should I "cut" him??? :D:D:D




You are getting too worked up over this client.



Be nice, polite and firm that you are now longer his detailer for this car.



From my experience you will feel great after "firing" this guy.

al



That ^. Explain to him that you feel you`ve done everything you can for him/his car. You can fall back on `too busy` if you want, but I wouldn`t bother. Clients that ask questions but refuse to *hear* the answer are, by far, the most frustrating, imo.

Apollo_Auto
06-09-2009, 03:51 PM
You are getting too worked up over this client.



Be nice, polite and firm that you are now longer his detailer for this car.



From my experience you will feel great after "firing" this guy.

al



Thanks Al, your signature says it all about this customer :).

eyezack87
06-09-2009, 11:13 PM
Have you tried showing him the paint readings on his car? Take those and compare it to a relatively new car with lots of paint on it. Maybe that will be a huge shocker for him...

Apollo_Auto
06-10-2009, 12:23 AM
Have you tried showing him the paint readings on his car? Take those and compare it to a relatively new car with lots of paint on it. Maybe that will be a huge shocker for him...



Been there, done that... he still had the Rain Man look on his face...