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Fishman
04-10-2009, 07:08 AM
I had my second car repainted last year after it was in an accident. I didn`t really drive it much during the winter and since the body job took the car to a detailer immediately after painting it to get it waxed, I didn`t wax it until yesterday when I noticed about ten spots like the ones in these pictures. Are these spots fish eyes or solvent pop? Are fish eyes and solvent pop the same thing?



http://i43.tinypic.com/i36nsx.jpg



http://i43.tinypic.com/161dnvr.jpg



http://i43.tinypic.com/28jimxk.jpg

Setec Astronomy
04-10-2009, 07:15 AM
Fish eye and solvent pop are different. A fish eye is when there is oil on the surface (or sometimes from the spray air in the old days) and forms a "bead" where the paint doesn`t flow out (really it looks like an inverted bead...er...kind of like a fish eye...). Solvent pop is when there is trapped solvent under a coat of paint and it bubbles up and "pops" the bubble.



Looks like the first pic could be a solvent pop, the second is a fish eye, and the third looks like a chip almost...but that one and the first one could just be some crap that got in the booth.

Accumulator
04-10-2009, 11:18 AM
The solvent pop I`ve experienced (too bad I don`t do the digital imaging thing; the M3`s hood is a perfect example :rolleyes: ) has been smaller than what`s in those pics and not single, isolated incidents like that either. IMO the pics show fisheyes and/or some other kind of problem.

Flashtime
04-10-2009, 11:42 AM
Contaminants - could be many things - that was there before or durring the painting

session. Could be something airborne and/or poor surface/equipment prep...

Some chipping occured in the last pic. Looks to be down into the e-coat (factory

epoxy coating).

Fishman
04-10-2009, 01:48 PM
Thanks guys. I`m going to take it back to the body shop probably next week and I`ll let you know what he says. His work is supposed to have a lifetime warranty, so maybe he will repaint it...

D.NGUYEN
04-10-2009, 09:25 PM
Might I mention the orange peel on that last pic

imported_steveo3002
04-11-2009, 10:32 AM
first one looks like a spec of dirt in the paint



others look very much like a stone chip that hasnt been fully sanded before paint

E's Exteriors
04-11-2009, 11:32 AM
first is dirt, second is fish eye, third is a chip at least from what I can see in the pic. Might I add that they might not have to fix the chip because it was to far from the damage that they repaired and would of had to blend the fender for free. I don`t know where the damage was but by looking at the pic they def. didn`t paint that fender. That peel is a bit off from panel to panel.