Ultima PGP + FK1000p gone in a month?

[Derek173]

Hmm.. what did I do wrong? I recieved my flex and my first victim was a red Toyota Camry (moms). Used Optimum Polish and observed about 75% correction in my opinion but since the car was beat up to begin with it looked amazing :woohoo:



After polishing I applied Ultima PGP and let it cure for about 3 hours. I then applied Fk1000p and the car never looked better. Thanks Autopia!



The problem is it rained today and I noticed there was sheets of water all over the car and very little beading. Any idea what I did wrong?:think:

[Scottwax]

Try washing the car and see how it beads then.

[JSFM35X]

You need to let the UPGP set up longer than 3 hours. Trust me its worth it. You do NOT need to layer multipe coats in a day to get the durability from this product. You will notice that after the first coat has cured 12-24 hours the gloss is better than when you just finished. I am not sure why you would put another coat of anything over the UPGP? To me the true reflective gloss is unbeatable. I believe teh UPGP never set up and cured and therfore did not adhere properly to the paint.

[Cleaning Fool]

When pollen or other particles settle on the paint surface, the paint tends not to bead well. Like Scott said, wash it, that should restore your beads.

[imported_sal329]

Why top UPGP with 1000p? Why not use 2-3 layers of just one? Or fk 1000p then apply UPGP. 1000p can be layered right after it is buffed off.

[Derek173]

Thanks I will give it a wash soon.

[Derek173]

Why top UPGP with 1000p? Why not use 2-3 layers of just one? Or fk 1000p then apply UPGP. 1000p can be layered right after it is buffed off.



I usually use a sealant followed by a carnuaba. Never had any problems in the past. Opti-seal followed by Nattys blue on my own car looked amazing. My old car I would use the klausse twins and carnauba never any problems?



Why do you suggest 1000p first followed by PGP? I am not sure how PGP followed by 1000p is any different?

[imported_sal329]

1000p is a sealant it is not a carnauba

[Derek173]

1000p is a sealant it is not a carnauba



I know it is a sealant but I am curious on why it can`t be used on top of UPGP? Why would FK1000p followed by UPGP be better?

[imported_Bence]

I`d leave UPGP cure for a day and then top it.



1000P can go over it theoretically. Observe it and when the results are not satisfactory, use 1000P alone.



How old is the Camry?

[Derek173]

I`d leave UPGP cure for a day and then top it.



1000P can go over it theoretically. Observe it and when the results are not satisfactory, use 1000P alone.



How old is the Camry?



it is a 2001 Camry. I plan on washing and applying PGP sometime this week.

[SuperBee364]

I think I heard from a reliable source that UPGP needs at least 18 hours between coats. Longer if it`s used in cold weather.



I`d stick with either UPGP or 1000P though, and not both. Usually, when guys use two LSP`s, you`ll see a wax on top of a sealant, and not two waxes, nor two sealants. Usually.. YMMV. :)



But if you want to go with the UPGP/1000P combo, I`d use the 1000p first, as you can top it immediately. Also, your LSP is only as durable as the base coat, and in my book, 1000P is more durable.

[imported_sal329]

I say 1000p then UPGP because 1000p can be layered or topped right after buffing off where as UPGP needs more time to cure. And for some reason in my head I would rather use a WOWA product last instead of before a traditional wax/sealant.