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amgtorre
02-22-2009, 08:38 PM
My car was repainted



It`s got a noticeable orange peel



I`m planning to wet sand it , and polish



I do not own a polisher , and I`m planning to get one, I`m not sure a DA polisher will help much after wet sanding ...

altough a lot safer, if I get a rotary , I have an old jeep cherokee that needs to be polished, so I can use that to practice.



Here are a couple of pics of the hood showing the orange peel

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh171/amgtorre/Leon%20pintura/100_3102.jpg



and a close up, same area

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh171/amgtorre/Leon%20pintura/100_3100.jpg



so wet sanding and polishing is the way to correct this, right ?

and a rotary will be best (faster) ?



Thanks for your comments!

Flashtime
02-22-2009, 08:45 PM
How many coats of clear? Why was it refinished? What did you pay?

amgtorre
02-22-2009, 08:58 PM
it was refinished because the top was all white due to being to long in the sun and neglected

the hood and front bumper were full of paint chips

the doors were starting to get oxidized

same as the boot

a couple of deep scratches ,

door dings



I do not know whow many coats of clear, but I can ask the painter



I basically paid for the cost of the paint.



A small area of the roof was wet sanded , less than 1" square, it is now smooth, no orange peel, hand polished so it is a bit dull.

Envious Eric
02-22-2009, 09:12 PM
i would only use a rotary after wetsanding...

Deanski
02-22-2009, 09:12 PM
Why didn`t they wet sand the finish to closely match your current finish?



Anyway, ask if it was cured in a spray booth via heat. If so, wet sand away. If not, do not sand it for at least 30 days, but most paints today are waterborne.



Have you`ve ever wet sanded a finish before?



Deanski

Altered-Image
02-22-2009, 09:38 PM
I wetsanded my mustang the day after I painted it, 3 coats color 4 coats clear. Wetsanded with 1500 grit and buffed with a Makita 9227, foam pad, and megs medium cut followed by a good polishing



http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/61/l_e043c9a8b39b0bb239fa25b5efcfa325.jpg



It was only my 2nd paintjob, so i wasnt exactly a professional, i had to wetsand out a couple of runs and sags. I was told the sooner i addressed the problems the better. I`ve never heard anyone say wait 30 days.



http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/16/l_ed315b05d1a20a5730f1f1adb65a2ce4.jpg

Flashtime
02-22-2009, 09:46 PM
There are more variables that you want to know. Don`t just sand and polish

away without knowing if there will be enough clear afterwords. Imagine your

paint job failing in a short time and having to refinish again because of

insufficient film build; not enough UV protection.



I asked about the price because it can reveal a lot. Not all paints are the

same... it looks like you got, basically, a "quick" job and likely only 2 coats

of clear was shot which isn`t enough to be sanding and polishing.



Is there s warranty? Was it a Maaco/1Day paint job?

Flashtime
02-22-2009, 09:50 PM
Paint takes a while to fully cure, so 30 days can be a safe time to wait before

apply a wax/sealant. And there is an optimal time to be sanding and polishing.

Generally, you have only a few days before the paint starts really getting hard.

itb76
02-22-2009, 09:53 PM
I`m not a pro but I have sprayed orange peel like that myself. A DA wouldn`t touch it, had to wet sand and use a rotary. With a little patience you`ll be fine.

imported_Larry A
02-23-2009, 09:13 AM
Take your time . Tape the edges because if you burn the paint it will be the edges.

amgtorre
02-23-2009, 12:02 PM
There are more variables that you want to know. Don`t just sand and polish

away without knowing if there will be enough clear afterwords. Imagine your

paint job failing in a short time and having to refinish again because of

insufficient film build; not enough UV protection.



I asked about the price because it can reveal a lot. Not all paints are the

same... it looks like you got, basically, a "quick" job and likely only 2 coats

of clear was shot which isn`t enough to be sanding and polishing.



Is there s warranty? Was it a Maaco/1Day paint job?



The job was not quick , they had the car for 4 weeks.

Other than the orange peel it has no other issues.



It has been 2 months since it was painted.



I`ve left a message to the painter to find out how many clear coats does it have ...



I have wet sanded a car over 30 years ago helping my Dad refinish a Ford Galaxy 500. Polishing at that time was by hand and it took us many, many weekends.



Thanks for the comments from everyone.

Accumulator
02-23-2009, 12:42 PM
amgtorre- I`d take it back and have *them* fix it. "Fix it" being a broad net to cast as it simply oughta match the factory paint (including the texture).

Flashtime
02-23-2009, 01:54 PM
How long they had the truck and how long they actually took are different

things.



There are many approaches to "painting" a vehicle. Never assume that it`s all

the same. The price and quality of the materials can be dramatic.



Also ask about the materials he used. Specifically the clear coat (part number).

Generally, for most budget refinish jobs, only 2 coats are shot. If there is to be

some sanding and polishing 3 or more coats *should be done; regardless of

brand. It`s not only about the quality of the clear (UV inhibitors) but also the

film build. If you know what clear was used, the manufacturer data can easily

be found and a slew of other other information that you really want to know.



I would hate to see you go through all the trouble for something that may fail

in a short period of time.

eyezack87
02-23-2009, 02:02 PM
Hmm, only certain paints you can take out wetsand marks with a PC. It completely depends on how soft the clearcoat you are working with...

amgtorre
02-23-2009, 04:17 PM
the painter told me he did 3 coats of clear, he can sand it polish it for me sometime in the next 4 weeks for a charge, or I can it give it a try



here is the car I`m talking about



http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh171/amgtorre/Leon%20pintura/100_2791.jpg



http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh171/amgtorre/Leon%20pintura/100_2794.jpg



and the vehicle I can use for practice is this one :

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh171/amgtorre/ago102008Huaxtla043.jpg