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Garry Dean
12-07-2008, 09:57 PM
I got a call today from a guy who would like to have me bring his 1960 Corvair Sedan back to life. It is severely oxidized, but otherwise in great shape. So I went over to see the car today and negotiate a price. We settled on a price and I set up the appointment. He used some Mothers cleaner wax on some of the car with decent results so he decided since it was looking better with that he should have a professional take a look.



My question is what kind of wax and or sealant do you prefer for single stage paint? I used search, but didn`t get the results I was looking for.



Here are some pics of the car that I took today, enjoy!



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Here is a shot at another one of his projects. Yeah, its a Corvair van.



http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr189/rcracer81/P1040859.jpg
Holden_C04
12-07-2008, 10:02 PM
Maybe I`m wrong but I don`t think the fact that it`s single stage paint should play any role in the choice of its protection.
Garry Dean
12-07-2008, 10:05 PM
You are correct, but I guess what I`m after are suggestions as to the best look.
howareb
12-07-2008, 10:07 PM
Maybe I`m wrong but I don`t think the fact that it`s single stage paint should play any role in the choice of its protection.



+1 IMO the choice of either a wax or sealant is mainly based upon what is tring to be achieved. For example if you are going to resotre this to a show car then I would use a high grade carnuba wax. However if the car is going to stay out in the elements exposed then I would choose a very durable sealant. Find out what the customer plans to do with the car once you are done with it. The best look is usually with wax and sealents are generally for better protection.
Holden_C04
12-07-2008, 10:08 PM
You are correct, but I guess what I`m after are suggestions as to the best look.



I think PO203 or IP on a Black pad on the rotary, or a White/Orange pad on the PC would look quite nice. Frankly, doesn`t really matter much what you top it with.
BigJimZ28
12-07-2008, 10:17 PM
sorry to rock the boat guys but...



IMO SS paint is best with a Nuba I think it`s the oils in the Nuba that "fead" the paint

the same way that the "trade sectet oils" in megs polishes just work a little with SS

paint



I also like to use a chemical cleaner first to "eat throught" the oxidization

(like meg 66 or KAIO works great) and make the process alittle faster and a lot easier on your pads



so for me the best combo is KAIO, Meg`s polishes, oil base glaze, and nice coat of Nuba
Garry Dean
12-07-2008, 10:36 PM
PO203 and a black finishing pad?
Garry Dean
12-07-2008, 10:40 PM
sorry to rock the boat guys but...



IMO SS paint is best with a Nuba I think it`s the oils in the Nuba that "fead" the paint

the same way that the "trade sectet oils" in megs polishes just work a little with SS

paint



I also like to use a chemical cleaner first to "eat throught" the oxidization

(like meg 66 or KAIO works great) and make the process alittle faster and a lot easier on your pads



so for me the best combo is KAIO, Meg`s polishes, oil base glaze, and nice coat of Nuba



I agree, I was leaning toward a Nuba. So you like KAIO via rotary or by hand first to eat through the oxidation then hit it with Megs 83 then maybe 80?
Holden_C04
12-07-2008, 11:04 PM
PO203 and a black finishing pad?



PO203 is a new polish made by Menzerna. It cuts like SIP and finishes like PO106FF. It`s designed to do two steps in one. So, for an inexpensive job like you are about to do (4-6 hrs) this polish is perfect. Using a Black finishing pad with this polish will ensure a hologram-free finish (provided you inspect the finish in the sun, of course).
BigJimZ28
12-07-2008, 11:28 PM
I agree, I was leaning toward a Nuba. So you like KAIO via rotary or by hand first to eat through the oxidation then hit it with Megs 83 then maybe 80?



I like AIO by PC

IMO it flashes too fast by rotary



yes 83 & 80 are great choices(thank Scottwax for that info)
Holden_C04
12-07-2008, 11:29 PM
Yes, never use any form of wax via rotary. Not a good combo.
Garry Dean
12-08-2008, 06:24 AM
So, back to my original question, lol. I guess it wont matter on single stage. Whatever looks good on clear should also look good on SS paint
Accumulator
12-08-2008, 11:10 AM
So, back to my original question, lol. I guess it wont matter on single stage. Whatever looks good on clear should also look good on SS paint





Yeah, but as BigJimZ28 pointed out, the oils/etc. in carnaubas can work especially well on single stage. This is most pronounced on old-tech ss, where the "feed the paint" thing is *NOT* BS the way it is with b/c. For this reason, glazes such as Meguiar`s "pure polishes" can be a good idea too (#7 used to be called "sealer and reseal glaze" back in the days of ss paint).



The only reason I`d consider a sealant on ss is for UV protection if fading/oxidation is the primary concern. And no, I dunno which sealant(s) would be best for this but I somehow suspect there are some that`d do a better job than a carnauba.



On *my* ss cars, I use carnauba and I keep `em out of the sun.
SuperBee364
12-08-2008, 11:45 AM
Premium, FWIW, I think that BigJim and Accumulator *really* know their stuff. If it was my SS car, I would read, print, and follow their posts to the letter. But... that`s just me. :D
razr007
12-08-2008, 11:48 AM
+1 IMO the choice of either a wax or sealant is mainly based upon what is tring to be achieved. For example if you are going to resotre this to a show car then I would use a high grade carnuba wax. However if the car is going to stay out in the elements exposed then I would choose a very durable sealant. Find out what the customer plans to do with the car once you are done with it. The best look is usually with wax and sealents are generally for better protection.



agreed if you want a crazy shine wax it if you want it protection for along while seal it if you want both seal 1st wax 2nd .