View Full Version : Trying Menzerna line for 1st time, HELP!
goceltics34
11-26-2008, 12:09 PM
Getting back in to detailing after a loooong break. I just purchased some Menzerna polishes and wanted to know if you can help me get started.
Intensive Polish PO91E
Power Finish P0203
Final Polish PO85U
Pads: Orange, White, Grey - all Lake Country Pads
What combination would I use to remove light swirls and very little water spots?
What combination would I use to remove medium swirls, marring, deep water spots?
Would I need to follow up any of these steps with another polish or can I go directly to the LSP?
I appreciate your help!
The answer to every question you asked is: "It depends"
There are just too many variables like:
The harness/softeness of your paint
Ambient Temperature
Severity of defects
Buffer speed
Buffer pressure
Your own expectations
I would say that you should start with the final polish and the white pad, inspect your work, and move up from there until you`re satisfied. As you get more aggressive, you might see an orange pad and/or the intensive polish leave micro-marring that you`ll have to take out with the Final polish.
goceltics34
11-26-2008, 12:34 PM
I have a 2004 Acura TL and would use the PC at 5 or 6 with medium to hard pressure, slow passes. Weather in Southern California is very cooperative. I want to get the finish as perfect as possible. Defects aren`t too bad but there are some water spots with minor scratches and swirls and micromarring.
MBurnickas
11-26-2008, 12:34 PM
I wouldn`t bother with starting with FP, if you have swirls and water spots start with IP and white pad and see if that gets it. Don`t waste much time there either, if you don`t get it in one pass go to orange pad. FPII is a great finishing product for a wax, but if you use a sealant try a dawn wash or alcohol wipe.
goceltics34
11-26-2008, 12:48 PM
Is there any need for Power Finish or will it be a dust collector?
MBurnickas
11-26-2008, 12:54 PM
Not at all a dust collector, in fact the other two might be the dust collectors. Power finish is like the other two in one bottle. It is possible to start right there too. I think IP with give you a slightly better cut than PF, but if 203 gets the swirls it will finish up nicely.
dublifecrisis
11-26-2008, 01:00 PM
yeah i would start with power Finish and a white pad. nice slow passes and shine a light, see what you get out of that. I`ve never used it but I have used the other 2 quite a bit.
goceltics34
11-26-2008, 01:02 PM
Nice, I think I will begin with Power Finish with a white pad. If this doesn`t work can I use Power Finish with the Orange Pad or go to Intensive Polish with a white pad? Too many options...
MBurnickas
11-26-2008, 01:09 PM
If you start with 203 and it doesn`t get it, I personally would go straight to IP with an orange pad. Using an orange pad with 203 kind of is a waste because you will have to finish it off.
If power finish/white pad doesn`t do what you want, then you probably won`t be using it at all. I wouldn`t go to an orange pad with it. In my experience the orange pad has too much cut to finish down LSP ready no matter what polish you use. So if you`re going to be doing a two step process, I would go with the the IP, then the FP.
Power finish is meant to be a one-step product.
goceltics34
11-26-2008, 01:18 PM
I think I got it. If Power Finish doesn`t do the trick, I will jump to Intensive Polish with an orange pad and finish up with Power Finish with a white pad.
Sound about right?
Thanks for the help.
MBurnickas
11-26-2008, 01:24 PM
One Step usually means clean or polish and adds protection but I know what your saying. It`s a product that has redefined what polishes are capable of, it is a medium cut that finishes better than most final step cleaners.
TSC17
11-26-2008, 01:44 PM
Another variable...what color TL do you have? If NBP, then you might need more refinement still.
goceltics34
11-26-2008, 03:04 PM
Another variable...what color TL do you have? If NBP, then you might need more refinement still.
Anthracite Metallic
I think I got it. If Power Finish doesn`t do the trick, I will jump to Intensive Polish with an orange pad and finish up with Power Finish with a white pad.
Sound about right?
Thanks for the help.
Probably. But I would bet that Finishing Polish and a white pad will work better as a second step than the Power Finish.