$300 In An Hour

[Driven Auto Detail]

Very cool demo Anthony! I`d love to see pics or even a vid of that`s possible.

[imported_DJ Mayo]

Looks great, seems this will be good for certain detailers. Any information on when this will come out and the cost?



DJ

[David Fermani]

After searching for this ground breaking thread for quite some time w/o luck, I decided to reach out to a moderator to have them help me with my search for it. It seems as if the prior administration (DavidB) felt threatened by this thread for several reasons and decided to move it away from public view. As an attempt to maintain the free will of this forum, the current administration ok’d moving it back so people can view how this product (thanks to Anthony Orosco) has evolved into what is now quite phenomenal. I hope everyone enjoys the read.

[nyakerz]

Now I have the little idea of how people reacted when Pythagoras made a bold statement.

[imported_animes2k]

Now I have the little idea of how people reacted when Pythagoras made a bold statement.



Honestly, it seems as if the detailing world is shifting in a lot of ways these past couple of years, even revolutionizing and reinventing itself. There will always be those that want to stick to the old ways, but this is awesome stuff.

[OnTheSpotMobile]

When I started reading the first replies on page 1 I thought where the heck have these guys been? Then I noted the post date.



Wow...

[(901)]

Well thanks Todd for the kind words and also your post and stating it in a level manner.



For the record, I have closed my on-line store. I only sell products to local detailers and even that can`t be consider anything as it`s barely anything because it`s just not something I`m aggressive about.





Let`s get serious



I have been detailing a good number of years. I have always sought to be the best, to reach a high level in my chosen craft. I wanted my name out there, to have respect from my clients and also those within my craft.



I struggled over every little detail of my details. I sought to create perfection. Spending hours polishing panels, sometimes days. I would Q-tip every nook and cranny inside and out. I did this to such a degree that I could never trust anyone else to do the same job. This may sound cocky but it`s not my meaning or intention, it`s just that it`s very difficult to trust someone to do the same level of detailing that I do and perform it with the same passion.



No one really wants to work anymore these days. They want a paycheck but I find little passion for a craft out there among Americas young work force. If I hire someone they see it only as a job, they have nothing personal invested in the job. They did not work their tails off getting the clients, it`s not their literal blood, sweat and tears which built up mine/your business.



Sure I could hire some people but then I would have to deal with all kinds of added headaches like people calling in sick when a huge day has been planned. Theft of clients stuff, them stealing from me and the worst, damage to a vehicle.



So one day, not so long ago, it came to me that I have no passion for this anymore. I`ve done it all, there is no challenge any longer. I see all these young guys come on these forums and talk about how they spend hours doing this and that, they spend oodles of money on all these products and feel satisfied making $150.00 for 12 hours of work. They post pictures up and sit back and wait for others to view and praise their work.



How do I know this? Because I once posted for that reason. I then realized that I was counting more on the accolades of others and their opinions were even more important than making money, hence my family suffered because I spent far too many working hours on a car and not being properly compensated for that work, I charged $300 for a detail and I spent 16 hours doing it. I lost money, I didn`t make any money. This caused a fatal burn out for me and I`m not sure I`ll ever detail like that again. I no longer detail for the passion but now I detail for the profit.



So all you who seek the accolades of others and that`s the sole purpose of your work then be prepared for a rude awakening because those accolades can`t be taken to the bank. They don`t pay bills.



This is the purpose of my use of this coating. I no longer want to work 8 hours for a few hundred bucks when I can work half that time and make the same or perhaps more. Will it work out that way? I have no idea but I`ll never know if I don`t try. I detail now for me and my family, not anyone else.



Anthony



This is the greatest post ever made on the internet :peace:

[SATracker]

Dude, this post was painful to read. To those who have never met Anthony or don`t know Anthony, the dude`s a class act. He`s not going to, "pimp crap" to make an easy buck off other detailers or rip off customers. If he endorses something it`s because it works and he believe in it. It is possible to disagree without being disagreeable. Perhaps I`m naive, but it seems to me that if a person has an "issue" with a thread, geez move on to another.

[jds62f]

Is there a cliff notes version? ie product name, available to buy, does it work?

[David Fermani]

The product name is Optimum Opti-Coat. It`s classified as a "paint coating" and is different that all other products used to protect paint. This thread, to my knowledge, it the 1st time it was ever mentioned. From people`s posts, you can plainly see how much resistence this product was initially met with. Now, it`s use is pretty mainstream. To me, this is the wholy grail thread of OC. Well, this thread helped a bit too:yo: : http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing-product-discussion/126661-optimum-opti-coating-durability-test-review.html

[SATracker]

I put it on my daughter`s 2001 Civic. For years the paint wasn`t taken care of. A couple of years back I went to Anthony`s place, he gave me his Flex and some Optimum polish and taught me how to polish a car. Every time I washed the car I had to wax it because the paint looked stressed. The other day I went back to AutoConcours and Ron Harris showed me how to apply Opti-Coat. The car looked incredible, we had rain last night and it still looks incredible. I`ll watch it over the months under our south Texas heat and let you guys know.

[Kean]

After searching for this ground breaking thread for quite some time w/o luck, I decided to reach out to a moderator to have them help me with my search for it. It seems as if the prior administration (DavidB) felt threatened by this thread for several reasons and decided to move it away from public view. As an attempt to maintain the free will of this forum, the current administration ok’d moving it back so people can view how this product (thanks to Anthony Orosco) has evolved into what is now quite phenomenal. I hope everyone enjoys the read. ….makes me wonder what happens to those threads I know existed in the past but I can never seem to find when I scour the forums. It’s a shame good information gets lost and forgotten this way. Thanks for bringing this one back from exile David and thanks to the moderators for realizing its worth. …..and (obviously) thanks to folks like Anthony (and yourself) for sharing these personal experiences in the first place.

[amcdonal86]

I`d pay $500+ for a coating if it could allow me to go to machine washes without getting swirl marks!

[umi000]

Well, that was an... "interesting" read, to say the least - many thanks, David, for pulling to have it reinstated on the public forum. With the benefit of almost three years of hindsight, during which the product has been tested and proven to work by experienced and credible detailers around the world, and even released to the public at large, I wonder what all the naysayers and skeptics who posted on this thread are now thinking?



I get the feeling that we`re on the brink of a revolution in detailing industry, with these new coatings coming out. Undoubtedly other companies will be following suit, and there will be competition on durability, ease of application, and looks, to the benefit of all end-consumers. I do feel that the "losers" here will be products like Collinite 476 and KSG - those products whose biggest selling point is durability, rather than ease of application or looks. Beauty waxes such as Souveran or P21S will probably still survive - after all, people don`t really buy these for their long life - but why would I want to apply 476 to my car, when Opti-Coat has it beat on durability, protection and water-repelling capability?

[Accumulator]

I`d pay $500+ for a coating if it could allow me to go to machine washes without getting swirl marks!



That might be asking a bit much, depending on the carwash involved :think:




.. but why would I want to apply 476 to my car, when Opti-Coat has it beat on durability, protection and water-repelling capability?



Because you can easily spot-correct a small area and rewax, whereas correcting a small area that`s been OptiCoated is a more involved process. And some of those durable waxes and sealants are more forgiving of minor flaws. The looks are perhaps too subjective for meaningful discussion, but I`ve used 476S specifically *for* its appearance (and that was on a concours competition car).



No, I`m not slamming OptiCoat (and much less :argue with you!), just pointing out some reasons why it`s not the right LSP for every situation. I used it on a set of wheels, and I expect to find it just fine for that, but I`m already wondering just how I`m gonna polish it away when the time comes to redo them (just enough odd surface contours that polishing, which wouldn`t normally be required given the finish involved, will be a huge PIA).



Now when they develop a quick and simple way to get around that spot-correction problem, I`ll be all ears. Maybe some sort of solvent that`ll easily wipe away the coating :think:



Oh, and Welcome to Autopia! Hope I didn`t come across too negatively responding to your first post here :o