View Full Version : Can I just use SIP and a wax?
technomafia
06-06-2008, 06:58 AM
can I use SIP with a LC orange or white then finish it off the NXT 2.0? Or do i need the 106 after the SIP?
gmblack3
06-06-2008, 07:03 AM
PC or rotary? What color and car?
technomafia
06-06-2008, 10:51 AM
PC or rotary? What color and car?
pc7424 on a VW jetta navy blue
imported_cushdrive
06-06-2008, 10:58 AM
Should be able to get away with it. PC doesn`t inflict buffer trails/holograming like a rotary and SIP finishes nicely on those LC Orange pads. 106 (or in your case you should be using 106ff for VW cars) cant hurt though.
Accumulator
06-06-2008, 11:05 AM
Nah, I wouldn`t do that. I`ve used milder products/pads than that and still seen an incredible improvement when I did a milder follow-up step (or two). You won`t appreciate the difference until you do the final polish, but it simply won`t look right without it IMO.
haper
06-06-2008, 09:42 PM
can I use SIP with a LC orange or white then finish it off the NXT 2.0? Or do i need the 106 after the SIP?
you could, but you`d be better off finishing w/ 106FF. SIP finished off pretty nice for me, but the 106FF really gave the paint that `pop`.
imported_DetailDan
06-07-2008, 12:47 AM
Theres a reason why SIP has a gloss rating of 3 and 106FF is 5.
imported_Denzil
06-07-2008, 01:42 AM
You CAN but I would never do that... ever.
porta
06-07-2008, 02:57 AM
On light colured cars I mostly finishes with PO85RD3.02. But on a dark coloured? Never.
wfedwar
06-07-2008, 06:17 AM
NXT 2.0 has such good fillers it honestly might not matter, at least if you keep up the NXT.
Accumulator
06-07-2008, 11:38 AM
NXT 2.0 has such good fillers it honestly might not matter, at least if you keep up the NXT.
Differing view: it`s not a matter of filling anything, but rather a matter of simply polishing the surface to a high enough gloss to be LSP-ready.
Consider how ss lacquer looks before you color-sand/compound/polish it: it has a satin finish: you can NXT/LSP it forever and it`ll never shine the way it will if you smooth it up via sanding/compounding/polishing. At every step of that process you improve the gloss far beyond what any LSP will contribute.. and polishing b/c is basically the same thing only it`s less exaggeratedly obvious.
wfedwar
06-07-2008, 11:48 AM
Yeah, I wasn`t saying I`d do it, just that it might be better off than you`d think. Actually, my biggest problem is the orange pad. I`ve never seen an orange pad finish all that well. I always finish with a lighter polish on a black pad and an AIO on red.
Accumulator
06-07-2008, 12:36 PM
Yeah, I wasn`t saying I`d do it, just that it might be better off than you`d think. Actually, my biggest problem is the orange pad. I`ve never seen an orange pad finish all that well. I always finish with a lighter polish on a black pad and an AIO on red.
Yeah, I find the same thing...no matter what the orange pads just don`t give me a ready-to-wax finish.