Wettest/slickest and POP for new Nighthawk Black Pearl Honda?? CMW vs Souveran vs NB?

[whatjigg]

Well I`m debating among products, everytime I seem to have made a choice it`s back to the drawing board. At first I`m thinkin Souveran, then Natty`s Blue, now I`m thinking Clearkote`s Carnauba Moose Wax - what should I be rolling with? I hear so much great stuff about Natty`s Blue but then I read a slew of negative comments about it in comparison to CMW & Souveran. I`d rather not swallow the cost of souveran but I will if I have to. Durability is not critical nor all that important to me, I`m after the :wow: factor.



I also want to minimize the number of steps, preferably a two step approach instead of 3 or more but let me know what will work best.



Here are the bunch of combo`s I`m looking at now for application on my relatively new Honda in Nighthawk Black Pearl....



AIO/NB

AIO/RMG/NB

RMG/CMW

RMG/Souveran

AIO/Souveran

AIO/RMG/Souveran

maybe FMJ?

...or other???



What combination is going to give the most pop and wet/slick look to my black car? :cooleek:



One thing that confuses me though is people like to post some of the sickest looking pics of their vehicles and then go on to talk about what they`ll try next time as if what they just pulled off wasn`t amazing, lol. I guess it`s the autopia culture.



Thanks for your help & suggestions.

[Scottwax]

RMG/CMW will give you the blackest look. Souveran has a somewhat more 3D look to it. I use CMW a lot more than Souveran both on my own car and my customers. I really like the darkening effect and it is also more durable.

[whatjigg]

is Klasse AIO needed before using RMG or is it ok to go without?

[Anomaly]

Just for examples sake, here are some pics of my last full detail of my Daytona Blue 350Z - color is a metallic pearl blue or something...



Polished with SIP/106FF

Coated with RMG/NB



http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/618796/fullsize/img_0871.jpg

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/618800/fullsize/img_0872.jpg



So far, I`ve been very pleased with the combination and have only applied another coat of wax once since that detail (~1 month later).



I think next time I`ll try P21S 100%

[fergnation]

DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG!

P21S 100%



http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/fergnation/HPIM1284.jpg





Also, my piece of crap camera does not even come close to doing this car justice.



DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG!

P21S 100%

[whatjigg]

DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG!

P21S 100%



Also, my piece of crap camera does not even come close to doing this car justice.



DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG! DWG!

P21S 100%



You can tell through the reflections that it`s looking amazing but yes, a different camera would help. Though I am sorta surprised you went with the P21S 100% as the topper. I guess technique is really what it`s all about. Nice detailing!! :woohoo:

[ducktail]

Ultrafina + #16



http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/ducktail_sg/IMG_0008.jpg



http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll200/ducktail_sg/IMG_0021.jpg

[TSC17]

First of all, I don`t think I`d question any recommendation from Scottwax...the guy knows his stuff!



Just based on my experience as a Acura NBP owner, you really need to make sure that the surface is finished off properly and ready for whatever glaze/wax/whatever you want to top it off with. My favorite combo (for now...I WILL try others!) is polishing with Poli-Seal, then Danase Wet Glaze, and then P21S 100%. I personally haven`t tried RMG/CMW, so I can`t comment or compare.



http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g95/tsc17/IMG_4392a.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g95/tsc17/IMG_4376.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g95/tsc17/IMG_4365.jpg

[Glossmaster]

TSC17: I absolutely agree with you on your Scottwax comment! I`ve learned so much from the info he shares over the past few years. (Bence, Accumulator, blkZ28Conv etc.) Your car looks lickabley dripping wet! Gorgeous car, man! Great work! Poli-Seal/DWG has been a proven winner as a base for my black 300C. Poli-Seal/RMG as well.(other combos as well) Now, while I won`t get into the debate on which "one" nuba to top that combo with because all of us have different tastes, I do suggest the following: CMW, Souveran, Meg`s#26 Paste, CG 5050, Pete`s 53, FK Pink Wax, P21S, Trade Secret, Max Wax, Natty` Blue, Natty`s etc. Just to name a few. lol. Lately, I`m on a Pink Wax bender. ( a little bit brighter finish ) On the sealant side of things, My eye really likes AJT on my black paint. I use that over a KAIO/DWG base. AW or FK425 after washes. Talk about a gloss "wow" factor.

[onelazydawg]

Soveran Paste with or without RedMoose Glaze.

[cls]

Poliseal + Collinite 845

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/clsIII/DSC01306-1.jpg

[imported_Picus]

We could all post 1000 pics. If you want wet + slick at the expense of depth/darkening then imo you go with a sealant (Opti Seal, Any of the Zainos, Werkstatt stuff, Jetseal, etc...). If you want to use a wax P21S 100% is very wet and slick. Souveran/CMW will noticably darken paint, and give great depth, both are wet but not as wet/slick as sealants.



*Personally* if I owned an NBP car and wanted to spend under $100 I`d go with RMG or P21S PWC under Souveran or Victoria Wax.

[stilez]

RMG/CMW will give you the blackest look. Souveran has a somewhat more 3D look to it. I use CMW a lot more than Souveran both on my own car and my customers. I really like the darkening effect and it is also more durable.





Agreed. RMG/CMW is a crazy combo on black.

[whatjigg]

so what kind of differences would i see between the poli-seal/DWG combo and RMG/CMW?

and from what i understand wouldn`t RMG needs to put on a base that`s already well prepped (with something like poliseal or AIO) as it doesn`t act as a cleaner or fix up paint imperfections?



and TSC17 I`m totally impressed with what you`ve done on your nbp acura!! At the end of the day though, with so many amazing combo`s, is there really a whole lot of difference or is really about how well you apply/remove/buff/polish the products & vehicle?



I`m especially looking for opinions from those who have tried numerous combo`s and waxes!!



Thanks for your help!!

[bumoftheday]

No one has mentioned the DWG and UPGP combo yet. That seems to be a big hit lately.