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SayNoToPistons
02-24-2008, 04:54 PM
Hi. My steering wheel has been through a few years of "abuse". I remember when it had a supple matte finish and it was really easy to grip. Now the leather is absolutely smooth, glossy (like how something would look after being drenched in Armor All :hairpull ), and slippery. I tried Meguiar`s gold class leather cleaner/condition with a MF towel and it didn`t help much. What formula, cleaners, and conditioners do i use to try my best and restore the steering wheel?

wfedwar
02-24-2008, 05:50 PM
Try a cleaner only (e.g., Lexol) and use a brush. It may take several passes.

todd@bsaw
02-24-2008, 05:51 PM
Most of the dirt and grime on a leather steering wheel will be the grease from your hands (or any oil based cleaners/conditioners you may use). Leather cleaner and conditioner should not be used on your steering wheel. You need to strip that grime from your wheel.



Currently, I use a steam cleaner for steering wheels because the heat really breaks down the oils. The traditional method is to just use a strong cleaner and a MF or brush. You`ll probably be surprised how long you have to keep at it to remove all the dirt.

SayNoToPistons
02-24-2008, 06:23 PM
Most of the dirt and grime on a leather steering wheel will be the grease from your hands (or any oil based cleaners/conditioners you may use). Leather cleaner and conditioner should not be used on your steering wheel. You need to strip that grime from your wheel.



Currently, I use a steam cleaner for steering wheels because the heat really breaks down the oils. The traditional method is to just use a strong cleaner and a MF or brush. You`ll probably be surprised how long you have to keep at it to remove all the dirt.

What do you mean by "strong cleaner"? Like an APC diluted? I don`t have a steam cleaner unfortunately :( .

fg3
02-24-2008, 07:04 PM
I`ve seen on here that a lot of people use a Magic Eraser on leather.



Might want to try that.

judyb
02-25-2008, 04:54 AM
Please do not use a Magic Eraser on leather. We have just tested these asd they can cause a lot of damage to the finish.



A strong detergent cleaner is the best product to use (Maxi Cleaner would also be OK) as you need to remove the surface dirt and grease.

David Fermani
02-25-2008, 05:05 PM
I use an automotive APC (diluted accordingly) with a tooth brush and they come out perfect. Then, after it`s clean, apply your conditioner.

imported_Totoland Mach
02-25-2008, 08:00 PM
every single BMW I get for reconditioning gets the following treatment for the steering wheel:



1. Ordinary liquid dishwash soap diluted with warm water in a spray bottle.

2. Horse hair brush for scrubbing

3. Compressed air or shop vac to remove excess water, especially around switches in the wheel.



I lightly scrub the wheel with the soapy water and brush and immediately wipe with a terry towel to remove. Then use air (vac or compressed air nozzle) to dry.



That`s it! The wheel is as fresh as a new vehicle and stays that way for a long time. One of the biggest headaches come from cars that had female drivers who transferred makeup from their hands (or hand lotion...don`t really know) to the wheel.



Toto

David Fermani
02-25-2008, 08:27 PM
Hey Toto - no protectant or conditioner gets applied on the leather?

imported_Totoland Mach
02-25-2008, 08:46 PM
Nosir David: as soon as the owner starts driving again, the natural oils from their hands starts to condition the wheel. Doesn`t make sense to add more oil to the process.



Toto

David Fermani
02-25-2008, 08:57 PM
Got it. :xyxthumbs I always thought that hand sweat/oil is high in PH and could prematurely wear out the leather? I guess I just love the initial soft feel of the conditioned trim before your hands wear it away anyways. :nixweiss

judyb
02-26-2008, 03:37 AM
Body oils are very detrimental to leather and it should be protected from them. Steering wheels should be cleaned but if the body oils have penetrated the leather then degreasers will be required to extract the oils. Cleaning will only remove what is on the surface.



Leather does not require conditioning as the oils in leather cannot be removed by the cleaning process and to add more back in will also speed up any deterioration of the leather.

David Fermani
02-26-2008, 06:51 AM
Body oils are very detrimental to leather and it should be protected from them.

Leather does not require conditioning as the oils in leather cannot be removed by the cleaning process and to add more back in will also speed up any deterioration of the leather.



Good info. But, (per your 1st line) how do you protect it if you shouldn`t use a conditioner?



Also, how does conditioner deteriorate leather?

judyb
02-26-2008, 11:45 AM
`Conditioners` do not protect leather. For protection you need a good water based fluorochemical product that will act like a `scothgard` and will inhibit body oils from being soaked into the leather. You also need to be sure that the product actually works as a protector. Many manufacturers are now changing the name of their `conditioners` to `protectors` without changing the product so they do not work.



`Conditioners` generally contain oils and/or waxes which on finished leather cannot penetrate the coating that is on leather and therefore sit on the surface and only serve to attract more dirt and oils which in time will break down the finish and pigment. If `conditioners` are put on leather that has cracked and the oils penetrate the leather then this upsets the balance of the fat liquors already in the leather and will also destabilise the adhesion of the pigment and finsh coating and so make the leather coating crack even more. Once a surplace of oils or dirt have penetrated the leather itself then this is what deteriorates the leather fibres and breaks the actual leather down.

adjulian
02-26-2008, 11:54 AM
`Conditioners` do not protect leather. For protection you need a good water based fluorochemical product that will act like a `scothgard` and will inhibit body oils from being soaked into the leather. You also need to be sure that the product actually works as a protector. Many manufacturers are now changing the name of their `conditioners` to `protectors` without changing the product so they do not work.



Great information. A couple of clarifying questions for you judyb. What "protector" products do you recommend for automotive leather, e.g., seats, steering wheels, etc.? Also, which leather degreaser products do you recommend?