View Full Version : p21s vs souveran
This compare p21 v souveran in bonnet .
steps:
1-wash with meguiars hyper wash and clay with mg blue
2-autoglym SRP
3-p21s right side v souvern left side
p21s looking wet - vibarglass looking
souveran look more refliction deep color over AG SRP
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imported_Jakerooni
11-26-2007, 09:51 AM
Damn that`s night and day. Looks like souveran wins that contest quite easily.
willtothewong
11-26-2007, 10:07 AM
wow im a noob
i cant tell the difference between the two rofl
mr.ikon
11-26-2007, 10:35 AM
I`m kinda stumped here too. In the last few pics, they both look damn good.
3wide
11-26-2007, 10:42 AM
no to be picky but on the first picture the souveran side has more reflection because the it has the tree to reflect the p21s is just reflection the sky. i`m sure in person the difference is noticable but i just don`t know if a camera can pick it up. does p21s and souveran sheet water like some of the videos of zymol or swivax? just curious. btw i think both sides look pretty damn good.
no to be picky but on the first picture the souveran side has more reflection because the it has the tree to reflect the p21s is just reflection the sky. i`m sure in person the difference is noticable but i just don`t know if a camera can pick it up. does p21s and souveran sheet water like some of the videos of zymol or swivax? just curious. btw i think both sides look pretty damn good.
yes i agree with y more reflection in souvern side because the tree , iused souveran vs zymol concourse in my charger , zymol best sheet water concourse sheet water better than any carnuba for 2 month and more , but if you sheet water like zymol ,use QD over souveran or p21s .
iused last touch over p21s after 1 wash apply second coat of p21s ..the result wow.
zymol concourse best sheet water than destiny ,concourse more protection than destiny ,but destiny give more sharpe refliction than concourse .
Accumulator
11-26-2007, 12:03 PM
maxi- I never put much stock in internet photos, and I don`t always see differences in them. That said, your findings are exactly what *I* experienced when I compared P21S and Souveran on the Jag; I even used SRP as the penultimate product too!
Some people might actually *prefer* the P21S, but I too like Souveran better. And SRP is a good underlying product for it :xyxthumbs
maxi-
Some people might actually *prefer* the P21S, but I too like Souveran better. And SRP is a good underlying product for it :xyxthumbs
yes accumulator ,when show this result to some people or some friend have little exprince in shine type may be 99% said p21s is better because genraly people like high gloss .p21s advange:good for all color metalic and solid not like souveran only for solid paint. p21s more more motion shine.
souveran nice wax ,quit shine its mean quit shine = sharp refliction . ithink need 2x coat of souveran to show more gloss , some time you feel one coat of souveran is not enough ,
i think must prewax you car with some product give very bright shine(klass -srp.-or glaze etc) to get best result with souveran.
Lowejackson
11-26-2007, 02:02 PM
If you want to slightly increase the gloss, use EPG after SRP and then top with some wax.
Accumulator
11-26-2007, 03:46 PM
Maxi- Can you believe that I like Souveran on *metallic* paint?!? I`m weird I guess, but my wife is the same way :nixweiss
Yeah, two or more coats of Souveran look better to me too. I sometimes spit-shine the subsequent coats, with good results.
Maxi- Can you believe that I like Souveran on *metallic* paint?!? I`m weird I guess, but my wife is the same way :nixweiss
Yeah, two or more coats of Souveran look better to me too. I sometimes spit-shine the subsequent coats, with good results.
really , souveran mute metalic fleck ...that what isaw in my car . i like souveran if im drive in night . really best refliction more than p21s in night times.
Accumulator
11-26-2007, 06:36 PM
really , souveran mute metalic fleck ...that what isaw in my car..
Hmmm..might be something that happens more with some paints than with others :nixweiss It`s been a while since I used Souveran on a metallic, but my wife and I both liked it on Audi silver, GM Pewter, and Porsche Horizon Blue. But I *can* imagine it muting flake more than P21S and some other products.
I love it on the Jag`s Rhodium Silver Metallic (single stage metallic lacquer, you don`t see that very often), but I`m funny about the Jag and how I want it to look :o
Some day I`ll try Zymol Vintage and that might change my opinions about what looks good.
2000firebird
11-26-2007, 06:55 PM
looks more like to me the objects reflections across aren`t even... of course the tree reflection is gonna look better :shrug: the windshield even looks better on that side
imported_never gone
11-26-2007, 07:40 PM
I do not believe for a second that someone would be able to tell the difference if they weren`t told. Let`s be realistic, you can wax a car with turtle wax and in the right lighting and angle it can look amazing on film.
LS1 Eddie
11-26-2007, 09:13 PM
I do not believe for a second that someone would be able to tell the difference if they weren`t told. Let`s be realistic, you can wax a car with turtle wax and in the right lighting and angle it can look amazing on film.
Couldn`t agree more.