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maxi
11-26-2007, 09:49 AM
This compare p21 v souveran in bonnet .



steps:

1-wash with meguiars hyper wash and clay with mg blue



2-autoglym SRP



3-p21s right side v souvern left side



p21s looking wet - vibarglass looking



souveran look more refliction deep color over AG SRP



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imported_Jakerooni
11-26-2007, 09:51 AM
Damn that`s night and day. Looks like souveran wins that contest quite easily.

willtothewong
11-26-2007, 10:07 AM
wow im a noob



i cant tell the difference between the two rofl

mr.ikon
11-26-2007, 10:35 AM
I`m kinda stumped here too. In the last few pics, they both look damn good.

3wide
11-26-2007, 10:42 AM
no to be picky but on the first picture the souveran side has more reflection because the it has the tree to reflect the p21s is just reflection the sky. i`m sure in person the difference is noticable but i just don`t know if a camera can pick it up. does p21s and souveran sheet water like some of the videos of zymol or swivax? just curious. btw i think both sides look pretty damn good.

maxi
11-26-2007, 11:33 AM
no to be picky but on the first picture the souveran side has more reflection because the it has the tree to reflect the p21s is just reflection the sky. i`m sure in person the difference is noticable but i just don`t know if a camera can pick it up. does p21s and souveran sheet water like some of the videos of zymol or swivax? just curious. btw i think both sides look pretty damn good.





yes i agree with y more reflection in souvern side because the tree , iused souveran vs zymol concourse in my charger , zymol best sheet water concourse sheet water better than any carnuba for 2 month and more , but if you sheet water like zymol ,use QD over souveran or p21s .



iused last touch over p21s after 1 wash apply second coat of p21s ..the result wow.



zymol concourse best sheet water than destiny ,concourse more protection than destiny ,but destiny give more sharpe refliction than concourse .

Accumulator
11-26-2007, 12:03 PM
maxi- I never put much stock in internet photos, and I don`t always see differences in them. That said, your findings are exactly what *I* experienced when I compared P21S and Souveran on the Jag; I even used SRP as the penultimate product too!



Some people might actually *prefer* the P21S, but I too like Souveran better. And SRP is a good underlying product for it :xyxthumbs

maxi
11-26-2007, 12:58 PM
maxi-



Some people might actually *prefer* the P21S, but I too like Souveran better. And SRP is a good underlying product for it :xyxthumbs



yes accumulator ,when show this result to some people or some friend have little exprince in shine type may be 99% said p21s is better because genraly people like high gloss .p21s advange:good for all color metalic and solid not like souveran only for solid paint. p21s more more motion shine.



souveran nice wax ,quit shine its mean quit shine = sharp refliction . ithink need 2x coat of souveran to show more gloss , some time you feel one coat of souveran is not enough ,



i think must prewax you car with some product give very bright shine(klass -srp.-or glaze etc) to get best result with souveran.

Lowejackson
11-26-2007, 02:02 PM
If you want to slightly increase the gloss, use EPG after SRP and then top with some wax.

Accumulator
11-26-2007, 03:46 PM
Maxi- Can you believe that I like Souveran on *metallic* paint?!? I`m weird I guess, but my wife is the same way :nixweiss



Yeah, two or more coats of Souveran look better to me too. I sometimes spit-shine the subsequent coats, with good results.

maxi
11-26-2007, 04:10 PM
Maxi- Can you believe that I like Souveran on *metallic* paint?!? I`m weird I guess, but my wife is the same way :nixweiss



Yeah, two or more coats of Souveran look better to me too. I sometimes spit-shine the subsequent coats, with good results.





really , souveran mute metalic fleck ...that what isaw in my car . i like souveran if im drive in night . really best refliction more than p21s in night times.

Accumulator
11-26-2007, 06:36 PM
really , souveran mute metalic fleck ...that what isaw in my car..



Hmmm..might be something that happens more with some paints than with others :nixweiss It`s been a while since I used Souveran on a metallic, but my wife and I both liked it on Audi silver, GM Pewter, and Porsche Horizon Blue. But I *can* imagine it muting flake more than P21S and some other products.



I love it on the Jag`s Rhodium Silver Metallic (single stage metallic lacquer, you don`t see that very often), but I`m funny about the Jag and how I want it to look :o



Some day I`ll try Zymol Vintage and that might change my opinions about what looks good.

2000firebird
11-26-2007, 06:55 PM
looks more like to me the objects reflections across aren`t even... of course the tree reflection is gonna look better :shrug: the windshield even looks better on that side

imported_never gone
11-26-2007, 07:40 PM
I do not believe for a second that someone would be able to tell the difference if they weren`t told. Let`s be realistic, you can wax a car with turtle wax and in the right lighting and angle it can look amazing on film.

LS1 Eddie
11-26-2007, 09:13 PM
I do not believe for a second that someone would be able to tell the difference if they weren`t told. Let`s be realistic, you can wax a car with turtle wax and in the right lighting and angle it can look amazing on film.



Couldn`t agree more.