View Full Version : New GM paint soft clear?
shadybreal
10-14-2007, 07:03 PM
Has anyone else had bad experiences w/ new GM vehicles having really soft clears. Black is almost impossible to keep swirl free.
ptaylor_9849
10-14-2007, 08:05 PM
Most GM blacks I`ve encountered marr very, very easily not just new ones. Then they are a bear to correct. If you`ve got a black GM your next investment should be a foam gun coupled with some seriously soft microfiber towels.
Patrick
wannafbody
10-14-2007, 08:32 PM
your next investment should be a lighter colored vehicle:grinno:
99blackSE
10-15-2007, 09:52 AM
GM black is a PITA...don`t ask me how I know :hmph:
imported_JoshVette
10-15-2007, 10:51 AM
GM paint is typically very very hard not soft.
What car do you have?
BuffMe
10-15-2007, 01:18 PM
I don`t think I`ve come across GM clear that was soft.
EBPcivicsi
10-15-2007, 04:57 PM
The new GM black paint is *very* soft.
BuffMe
10-15-2007, 05:02 PM
Come to think of it, I`ve seen a detail on a new black TB SS that seemed to clean up quite well with minimal work.
The new GM black paint is *very* soft.
Okay, if ebpcivicsi is saying it, then there must be something to this. I have to admit, I don`t do a lot of GM cars (mostly high-end foreign stuff), but I`ve always said that I like GM paint better than any of the others I typically do because it is relatively hard. (keep in mind that everybody with jet black paint feels their paint is soft and difficult to keep swirl-free). All the GMs I`ve done have been hard, which is nice cause I can buff out thier black paint blind folded with a rotary and not leave buffer swirls, but they must have decided to mess a good thing up (I don`t mind that it is more difficult to correct...being a rotary guy, I just step up the pressure).
Bigpoppa3346
10-15-2007, 05:23 PM
The newer GMs that I`ve done (06+) have been pretty hard. Not impossible to correct hard, but hard enough to keep wash induced marring to a minimum. These were lighter colors, however.
SpoiledMan
10-15-2007, 05:58 PM
The new GM black paint is *very* soft.
I did some correction work on an `07 black Vette with 106ff, green(AG) CCS on the rotary.
shadybreal
10-15-2007, 08:03 PM
GM paint is typically very very hard not soft.
What car do you have?
It`s not my car. It`s my customers` cars. Mostly black Escalades, Silverado, Sierras, Tahoes, Denalis, etc.
EBPcivicsi
10-17-2007, 12:05 PM
Here`s car that I fixed for the dealer earlier thisyear--this is after *one* dealer wash (green brush, dirty water, dirty chamois).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ebpcivicsi/VW%20Beetle%202%20CTS-v%20Infiniti/tn_IMG_5654.jpg
I corrected that with the PC/orange pad followed by a white LP LC pad/PO106FF.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ebpcivicsi/VW%20Beetle%202%20CTS-v%20Infiniti/tn_IMG_5671.jpg
Different CTS-V--same dealership.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ebpcivicsi/VW%20Beetle%202%20CTS-v%20Infiniti/tn_IMG_5682.jpg
shadybreal
10-20-2007, 06:54 AM
What polish did you use w/ the orange pad? Hopefully the dealer will keep letting his employees wash the cars, so he can pay you to fix them. LOL!
Great job.
David Fermani
10-20-2007, 02:15 PM
There`s no way you can stereotype all GM paint as being the same. Each plant that produces vehicles have slightly different recipes for their finishes. A Tahoe/Escalade that`s built at the Arlington, TX plant might not use the same paint or system that the Bowling Green, KY plant uses that makes the Corvette/XLR. Therefore each 1 *could* and *is* different.