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wannafbody
07-19-2007, 04:14 PM
Do you prefer hand or machine?

wannafbody
07-19-2007, 04:19 PM
I voted by machine for a couple reasons. First any good AIO has enough bite that with machine they should be able to remove any mild hollogramming left from rotary work. Using a rotary with a polishing pad and finishing polish and then following with an AIO by PC should reduce polishing time and leave a very nice finish. Also it seems as if using a PC can reduce the amount of product needed to cover a vehicle as it seems to spread farther.

imported_bigfoot
07-19-2007, 04:56 PM
When I started into detailing, I did everything by hand. Now, I have the PC, so everything goes by it.

Strokin04
07-19-2007, 05:09 PM
I voted for machine because that way I can clean up any slight imperfections caused by polishing. Also for the one step details to correct what you can to the fullest extent with the aio by using the machine.

imported_MCA
07-19-2007, 05:12 PM
I prefer to use a machine (PC) for AIO products. In my experience, the PC helps immensely in taking advantage of the "cleaning" nature of AIO`s (KAIO, ColorX, VM, etc).

Scottwax
07-19-2007, 05:14 PM
I don`t "apply" AIO type products, I work them via machine. Honestly, unless you have no access to a buffer, I can`t see any advantage to hand application vs machine.

Accumulator
07-19-2007, 05:22 PM
Machine here too, usually with light (no cut) polishing pads as opposed to finishing pads.



I don`t use Klasse AIO by Cyclo though, it flashes way too fast and is a real PIA to buff off. Works fine by PC, but I never got any correction out of it on the paints I`ve used it on.

gmblack3
07-22-2007, 04:12 AM
ZAIO via metabo @ 1100 and a blue or green 7" edge wave pad. Always looks great and no way I could apply and work it in this fast by hand.

ConglomrationAL
07-22-2007, 08:12 AM
I always use poli-seal with my Makita at 1100-1200 rpms. As it always gets rid of any hologramming or minor swirling to give a great looking finish.

Accumulator
07-22-2007, 01:26 PM
Heh heh, some of you rotary-meisters are able to do stuff that I`m pretty sure wouldn`t work for me ;)

HenrikP
07-22-2007, 01:34 PM
Which LC CCS 5" pad would you guys recommend using with ZAIO on with a PC, blue or black?

ConglomrationAL
07-22-2007, 01:43 PM
Depnds on if you want to get some minor correction from it or not. if you just want to apply it then i`d say black or blue are pretty much the same. If you want some minor correction i`d say use a white CCS pad.

Accumulator
07-22-2007, 01:56 PM
on mosr normal paint, I`d figure that the pad wouldn`t matter as the ZAIO`s abrasive would (IMO) do the same amount of work by PC regardless of the pad anyhow.



I`d choose a more open-pore pad than the black as I`d want someplace for the ZAIO/stuff it takes off to go and I don`t see said stuff penetrating/migrating up into a black pad too readily. But then I never like using the black pad by PC for much except liquid LSPs...

imported_Malachi
07-22-2007, 06:35 PM
I tend to apply aio products by hand. I also apply the sealant by hand. I guess I do that since I don`t trust myself not to miss a spot and then the sealant won`t stick.

cls
01-22-2008, 04:32 AM
Can I use LC green pad for kaio?