1Z vs. Menzerna

[fd3annen]

Just asking for comparison between the two products before I order them with my PC. Not sure if there is a difference in the way the products make the paint look. I am looking to achieve that deep wet look. Any inputs would be great!

Thanks

[stiffdogg06]

Well Menzerna is known for their polishes. So, in reality, neither 1z or menz. polishes will give you a wet/deep look. If the paint is pretty bad, the polishes removing so many scratches and oxidation that it may APPEAR that the paint got deeper/wetter; but really you just removed the micro layer of scratches and what not. The wax/sealant will give ya the wet/deep look for the most part.



I can`t comment on 1z because I have never used anything by them. But I can tell you that Menzerna polishes are 2nd to none. They remove scratches easily with PC, 106ff or any finishing polish leaves beautiful LSP ready paint. Look at the click & Brags, A LOT of the people use Menzerna polishes with great results! I don`t see many people use the 1z line on here. But each to his own.

[crew219]

I wasn`t that much of a fan when using the 1Z polishes by rotary. I found that my pad gummed up easily with their products whether I used a little, a lot, or a medium amount. I tried cutting it with water, RMG & etc and it still gummed up. Perhaps it was because the rotary does produce a bit of heat whereas the PC does not. Either way, I`ve used Menzerna on both PC and rotary and have been quite impressed with their offerings.



Dave

[Accumulator]

NOTE: The only Menzerna product I`ve tried (so far) is FP (version 1).



If working by rotary, I`d lean towards Menzerna. If working by hand I`d choose 1Z for sure. If by PC/Cyclo it`d depend on whether or not I was trying for true perfection (in which case I`d probably go with Menzerna,but that`s just a hypothetical). If just getting started by PC/Cyclo I`d go with 1Z.



And I suspect the Menzerna finshing polishes for scratch-resistant clear are truly exceptional (haven`t gotten around to trying mine yet :o ).



But for a penultimate product on an already marring-free finish, I got better results with 1Z Pro-Line MP than I did with FP. This was a side-by-side comparison using the Cyclo. The difference might`ve been attributable to the stuff that the 1Z leaves behind, but whatever the reason, I liked the look better. But the difference was *mighty* subtle. FWIW that ended up being the best detail I`ve *ever* done, I simply cannot imagine it turning out better (haven`t equalled it since, either :o ).



And FWIW#2, while I`ve hardly done anything with Menzerna polishes, I go through a *lot* of 1Z, and I consider myself pretty particular about how well our vehicles look.

[fd3annen]

Well Menzerna is known for their polishes. So, in reality, neither 1z or menz. polishes will give you a wet/deep look. If the paint is pretty bad, the polishes removing so many scratches and oxidation that it may APPEAR that the paint got deeper/wetter; but really you just removed the micro layer of scratches and what not. The wax/sealant will give ya the wet/deep look for the most part.



What Wax/sealent, and or glaze would you recommend to follow the polishing with to get the deeper/wetter look? Price isn`t an issue so whatever is the great stuff you recomend then let me know! Thanks everyone

[stiffdogg06]

What color car?



Lighter colors probably Nattys Red, Jeff Werkstatt CJ, or Opti-Seal.



Darker colors I really like to put RMG/FTG (glazes) and then either Souveran or AJT.



Or you could a few thousand and buy some Zymol Vintage LoL:rofl

[Crusader101]

Can you use AJ-T over RMG?

[porta]

Menzerna hands down. PO83 and PO106FF.

[fd3annen]

What color car?



Lighter colors probably Nattys Red, Jeff Werkstatt CJ, or Opti-Seal.



Darker colors I really like to put RMG/FTG (glazes) and then either Souveran or AJT.



Or you could a few thousand and buy some Zymol Vintage LoL:rofl



My car is red....and one more thing....can you say the full name and not the acronym....I am not familiar enough with all the brands to know the acronym! thanks

[fd3annen]

Menzerna hands down. PO83 and PO106FF.



Not sure what part numbers are what but I have a red car and after the two stage polishing, I was thinking the Menzerna finishing glaze and top that with the pinnacle caranuba wax....sound good or no...thanks for the help

[Pennypacker]

Each company makes many different detailing products, especially 1Z, so what exactly are you trying to compare? Even the polishes are different as most of the consumer-line 1Z polishes leave something behind, whereas the Menzerna polishes do not. Some prefer the former characteristic. Others prefer the latter.



Regardless, both make high-quality stuff and I very rarely hear anything bad spoken about either. If I had to make a broad characterization, I would say that the 1Z line is generally more user-friendly.

[porta]

Sry,



Menzerna PO83 = Menzerna Super Intensive Polish PO 83Q Free Bonus! (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-super-intensive-polish.html)



Menzerna PO106FF = Menzerna Nano Polish PO 106 Free Bonus! (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-nano-polish.html)



Another Glaze from the real Menzerna = Menzerna Finishing Glaze PO 115C Free Bonus! (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-finishing-glaze.html)

[velobard]

My car is red....and one more thing....can you say the full name and not the acronym....I am not familiar enough with all the brands to know the acronym! thanks

I try to make allowances when I`m responding to someone fairly new here, but overall you will find Autopia easier to understand if you keep this handy.

http://autopia.org/forum/faq.php?faq=secret_decoder_ring



There`s newer stuff not in it yet, but there`s also a thread in Detailing Products asking for suggestions for an update.

[Accumulator]

Without the acronyms this stuff would be such a PIA that I wouldn`t post nearly as often as I do.



1Z= "Ein Zett" = One "Z" (in German)

MP= Metallic Polish (from the above)

FP= Final Polish (from Menzerna).



Only problem with Souveran paste wax is that it doesn`t last long. And I find it gets a little "soft"/"tacky" and can hold dirt more than some other waxes. Good for garage queens (I use it on the Jag) but not my choice for drivers these days (don`t want to rewax that often).

[stiffdogg06]

Can you use AJ-T over RMG?



I do, what seems to be the problem?:bat <--:laugh:



I also use AJ-T over FTG.