DG , whats a better polish/sealant 111 or 105

[Fallz]

What are your findings

[derekbmw]

105 by far as a sealant.

[Fallz]

OK I put on a layer of 101 Polish& cleaner , followed by a layer of 105.



Should I do a 111 which is just a straight polish and then AW ?



I suppose I could do it later.



DG recommended 101 followed by 111 , they didn`t mention going to a 105 , why do you suppose that is , I thought 105 was their cats *** polish ??

[AL-53]

101 and 105 is fine..you can top it if you want with 111 but the 105 is a better sealant...has better looks also...



111 is not a straight sealant also..it has a cleaner ...as said on the box.....just non abrasive...



the cleaner is very light but present...



its up to you if you want to top it..but the 105 is the better of the 2



AL

[Fallz]

So 111 , 105 & 101 all are cleaner waxes/sealants. Kinda of strange.



Which one would be good to layer since they all have cleaners would that not take away or diminish under layers ?



Should my final LSP be AW and AW for maint. ?



I had my metallic gray 4runner stripped a few months ago of all my products that have built up , and AW was the only thing I used on it for a few months , always looked stunning , deep , wet , slick.

[johnle]

from what I know.



105 isnt a cleaner at all

[AL-53]

105 has a cleaner..very very mild but there..it is just to ensure surface is clean to bond to...111 same thing....101 is the AIO of the bunch..strongest cleaner of them all.....



I have layered 105x2 many times on cars...and when you do you actually see a difference in looks after the second layer...



both 111 and 105 will layer....both look good also....I used 111 before 105 came out and was very pleased with the looks...105 looks just better...and its slicker..



DG said once the sealant is cured the cleaners do not effect the finish...it is basicly for the after wash and then seal routine...a wash does not get it all..like the smog and road grime micro layer that sorta embed in the finsh...



As said the 101 is the strongest cleaner and will not layer..along with the fiberglass cleaner sealant..I think its 151..they have micro abrasives..sorta like poli seal...



Al

[a.k.a. Patrick]

No comment, LMAO...........

[AL-53]

ok Patrick...heres the sheets....whats your proof...



BROTHERS RESEARCH CORPORATION

SILICONE /ABRASIVE / ALIPHATIC HYDROCARBONS



================================================== =============

MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET

EFFECITVE DATE: 1/27/00 CODE: DGL0111-1

SILICONE /ABRASIVE / ALIPHATIC HYDROCARBONS

================================================== =============



SECTION 1 - PRODUCT AND COMPANY INFORMATION

================================================== =============

PRODUCT NAME: SILICONE /ABRASIVE / ALIPHATIC HYDROCARBONS

COMMON NAME: DURAGLOSS PART# 111

MANUFACTURER`S NAME: BROTHERS RESEARCH CORPORATION

2245 AIR PARK DRIVE

BURLINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA 27216-0317

EMERGENCY TELEPHONE NUMBERS: 1-336-229-6480

1-800-638-7245

CHEMTREC 1-800-424-9300

REVISION DATE 1/27/00

================================================== =============



SECTION 2 - HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS

CAS NO. INGREDIENT % BY WT. V.P.

8052-41-3 ALIPHATIC HYDROCARBONS 22% 1.00mmHg @ 77.0 F

================================================== =============



SECTION 3 - HAZARDS INDENTIFICATION

**********************EMERGENCY OVERVIEW**********************

* COMBUSTIBLE. CAUSES EYE IRRITATION. LIGHT BLUE CREAMY SUBSTANCE *

* WITH FRAGRANCE. *

************************************************** ************



CHRONIC CANCER INFORMATION: NOT LISTED UNDER IARC OR NTP

TERATOLOGY (BIRTH DEFECT) INFORMATION: NOT LISTED

REPRODUCTION INFORMATION: NOT LISTED











BROTHERS RESEARCH CORPORATION

SILICONE /ABRASIVE / ALIPHATIC HYDROCARBONS



================================================== =============

MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET

EFFECITVE DATE: 1/27/00 CODE: DGL0101-1

SILICONE /ABRASIVE / ALIPHATIC HYDROCARBONS

================================================== =============



SECTION 1 - PRODUCT AND COMPANY INFORMATION

================================================== =============

PRODUCT NAME: SILICONE / ABRASIVE / ALIPHATIC HYDROCARBONS

COMMON NAME: DURAGLOSS PART# 101

MANUFACTURER`S NAME: BROTHERS RESEARCH CORPORATION

2245 AIR PARK DRIVE

BURLINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA 27216-0317

EMERGENCY TELEPHONE NUMBERS: 1-336-229-6480

1-800-638-7245

CHEMTREC 1-800-424-9300

REVISION DATE 1/27/00

================================================== =============



SECTION 2 - HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS

CAS NO. INGREDIENT % BY WT. V.P.

8052-41-3 ALIPHATIC HYDROCARBONS 23% 1.00mmHg @ 77.0 F

================================================== =============



SECTION 3 - HAZARDS INDENTIFICATION

**********************EMERGENCY OVERVIEW**********************

* COMBUSTIBLE. CAUSES EYE IRRITATION. CREAMY WHITE SUBSTANCE *

* WITH FRAGRANCE. *

************************************************** ************



CHRONIC CANCER INFORMATION: NOT LISTED UNDER IARC OR NTP

TERATOLOGY (BIRTH DEFECT) INFORMATION: NOT LISTED

REPRODUCTION INFORMATION: NOT LISTED



================================================== =============





I do not have one for 105...but you always claimed 111 is pure..well not....you seem to know alot but never produce your info...

[Fallz]

No comment, LMAO...........





Patrick , what is so funny ??



Thanks for the info AL-53

[AL-53]

I deleted my post..its just car care products..no sense acting like kids....let the kids do it....



Al

[a.k.a. Patrick]

Patrick , what is so funny ??



Thanks for the info AL-53

Me and Al had quite a lengthy thread a while back about the differences of 101, 105, and 111.....Quite opposite opinions as a matter of fact.........

[Fallz]

Al,

Thanks for the tips , I`ve really been having fun playing with the DG stuff.

Pretty impressive and I have a lot of high dollar stuff in my garage to compare to .

[AL-53]

Patrick...I just pass on whats told to me from Jerry or Bill....and that other post..others that called got the same info I got...you say this...I say that...I think its best to let them try it and rate it.. let them say what they think of it...its just a car care product...no biggie....they can call and get answers also...



AL

[richy]

105 has a cleaner..very very mild but there..it is just to ensure surface is clean to bond to...111 same thing....101 is the AIO of the bunch..strongest cleaner of them all.....



I have layered 105x2 many times on cars...and when you do you actually see a difference in looks after the second layer...



both 111 and 105 will layer....both look good also....I used 111 before 105 came out and was very pleased with the looks...105 looks just better...and its slicker..



DG said once the sealant is cured the cleaners do not effect the finish...it is basicly for the after wash and then seal routine...a wash does not get it all..like the smog and road grime micro layer that sorta embed in the finsh...



As said the 101 is the strongest cleaner and will not layer..along with the fiberglass cleaner sealant..I think its 151..they have micro abrasives..sorta like poli seal...



Al

Al,

Does it need time to cure in between coats? Also, if you top 105 with collinite, should it cure before adding the wax? Thanks