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Grimm
06-05-2007, 08:59 PM
OK, I got a chance to test out the SIP versus my old formula of Hyper Compound. Below are pics from two different cars. Since I got two Menzerna polishes I had two of the low profile orange pads to keep things as equal as possible. I did both test areas the same, four passes in perpendicular directions slowly with moderate pressure on the PC at speed 6, and then two passes a little faster with only the machines weight. As expected, the SIP came out hands down the winner. It took out virtually 95% of the swirling and all that remained were a few random straight scratches. And the finish almost looks good enough to wax, but as you can see from the pics it`s a bit duller than the middle section where the tape was so a pass with Micro Polish will be in order. The Hyper Compound side noticably dulled down the swirls, but they were still readily apparent. And as you may see in the pics from the black car, the HC left little swirlies in the paint. This tells me that the HC needed to be worked longer, which doesn`t surprise me since I was trying to keep the test the same. But even if I did work it longer and came out with similar results to the SIP, that still means it would take a whole lot longer to get the results. But having used the HC prior, I know a little added work time wouldn`t have made much difference.



Now for the pics:

These red ones are from a `68 Cutlass, unknown repaint.

Not a great pic, but the spot where the flash is at is the tape area.



http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/4990/p1010517ej5.jpg

This one focuses on the HC side of the panel. I didn`t really see the marring left by this compound from not breaking down, but in the picture it looks like maybe you can see it.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9708/p1010520gp4.jpg



Again, this red was hard to get good pics of, but what you see here is basically what I saw in person, a nearly flawless finish on the SIP side



http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1416/p1010518cu2.jpg

These next pics are from a 2003 Pontiac Bonneville, black (actually a very dark brown). Again, the HC is on the left of the tape mark, SIP on the right.



http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7927/p1010521eb8.jpg

Focusing on the HC side here. You can see here the little marks I think many refer to as "hooks"?

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3228/p1010528gl7.jpg



And here is a shot toward the SIP side, much cleaner.

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5050/p1010529sh7.jpg



Again, I want to reiterate this was the old formula of Hyper Compound. I`ve read the new stuff is quite a bit more potent, so maybe the new stuff will yield more close results to the SIP.

imported_themightytimmah
06-05-2007, 09:09 PM
Wow - that`s really good, I might have to pick up some SIP in my next order.



As for the old formula HC... it doesn`t finish as well as claimed :)

mr.ikon
06-05-2007, 09:20 PM
hmm interesting results. i think i need that in my lineup.

kleraudio
06-05-2007, 09:24 PM
I was thinkin about getting SIP and no there is no more thinking involved! Thanks for the review.



i wonder how this stuff will perform w/ a rotary???



Jim

imported_rydawg
06-05-2007, 10:34 PM
Performs great by rotary. Just gotta make sure you use a little bit. 2 drops on the pad per 2x2 area.



By PC it will do a good job at removing most light scratches. On rotary it will remove all moderate scratches and leave a very deep shine. Check out the Volvo I did with it. 1 pass by rotary and it was perfect.

AudiOn19s
06-06-2007, 08:34 AM
Can you guys compare the SIP to Powergloss. Is Powergloss still more agressive or are they pretty close in comparison.

porta
06-06-2007, 09:09 AM
PG is more aggresive.

imported_Bence
06-06-2007, 09:43 AM
I`m surprised that the surfaces got so scuffed up and became quite matte (in comparison to the original taped area) with both products.



With the correct technique, I can go to LSP with both - only sensitive darks need a finishing step.

Grimm
06-06-2007, 09:51 AM
For one thing I`m not the best at taking pictures. The difference comes out much more in the pictures than in person. My other thought is that I didn`t remove any wax before doing the test, so the tape strips probably look darker from wax. The red one probably has some wax yet since it sits in the garage, and the black car has two recent layers of Nattys Blue as well as the AW I did a few days ago. Also, the black car is actually a very dark brown and doesn`t look very good in close up shots, so that is probably why it looks "matte" as you said. I`ve noticed that wax does darken it up pretty well.

Immaculate1
06-06-2007, 10:01 AM
Good Job! I think though you need to compare them on sevral other factors. First off, your using a PC, most people use SIP and HC with a rotary.



Also, the polishes may work better or worse depending on the cars clear coat or paint hardness.



Among tons of other factors.



There is really no exact science to paint correction.

Grimm
06-06-2007, 11:23 AM
This is very true. I did edit my original post so that people know exactly what type of car I worked on.

Grimm
06-07-2007, 07:23 AM
I just wanted to give a little followup. Since the trunk of the black car was unprotected, I took a moment to go back out last night and finish it to get some wax back on. I went over the entire trunk with the SIP, and then followed up with the Micro Polish on a LC white pad. The trunk is now nearly perfect with all but a couple random scratches removed.