Jo Donny
03-19-2007, 04:25 PM
I found this in a discussion on a forum about detailing. I didn`t seem to agree with some of this, tell me what you guys think.
"Any product with a silicone base WILL eat through your clear coat over time, especially fresh paint. THE BEST products out there are made by 3M, and they are all oil based. Unfortunately i`m pretty sure only automotive suppliers carry their products. i work at a body shop and it`s the only stuff we use. Ardex, meguires`s zymol and pretty much anything else is ok but there not made to last, they wear away much faster than anything by 3M.
For oxidized panels, u might just be **** outta luck depending on how bad it is...if it`s through the clear don`t put any wax on it. even if u do and it may seem like it looks better it`s only hurting it. bascoat and wax dont mix well at all.
For any scratches that wont buff out get some 1500 grit sand paper, water and see if it`ll wet sand out. than 3000grit with a DA to blend heavy scratches. than use an extra cut compound and a high speed buffer and a white wool pad. Foam pads are just a waste of time when using compound. anything under 1500 rpm`s is a waste of time and ur serisously better off applying compound by hand. than take a black foam pad with 3M`s swirl remover and a high speed buffer.
We all now how much a pain in the *** swirls are (especially with a darker color or black car). And no matter how much u buff and polish and repeat u`ll always have a lil bit of a light swirl and it seems to go away till u wash it a few times than it`s swirls all over again. 3M just released there new product in `07 called Ultrafina and it`s new blue foam buffing pads. that`s supposed to be applied not more than 1800 rpm`s on a buffer and not to be buffed dry. since their stuff is oil based that`s how the Ultrafina works, being a lil wet still. trust me, the amount of detailing i`ve done i`ve never used a product that 100% takes out the swirls and even after washing the car numerous times not a single swirl came back. I checked out 3M`s website and i wasn`t able to find the Ultrafina but i didn`t look too long.
Ayway that`s just how i do my paint clean up, as for interior they`re stuffs good and but it doesnt really matter too much wat u use....as long as u keep it up ur vinyl/leather won`t crack or fade."
also, another kid was saying you can`t take out swirls with a foam pad, and that in order to remove swirls for longer than a couple weeks you need a wool pad.
"Any product with a silicone base WILL eat through your clear coat over time, especially fresh paint. THE BEST products out there are made by 3M, and they are all oil based. Unfortunately i`m pretty sure only automotive suppliers carry their products. i work at a body shop and it`s the only stuff we use. Ardex, meguires`s zymol and pretty much anything else is ok but there not made to last, they wear away much faster than anything by 3M.
For oxidized panels, u might just be **** outta luck depending on how bad it is...if it`s through the clear don`t put any wax on it. even if u do and it may seem like it looks better it`s only hurting it. bascoat and wax dont mix well at all.
For any scratches that wont buff out get some 1500 grit sand paper, water and see if it`ll wet sand out. than 3000grit with a DA to blend heavy scratches. than use an extra cut compound and a high speed buffer and a white wool pad. Foam pads are just a waste of time when using compound. anything under 1500 rpm`s is a waste of time and ur serisously better off applying compound by hand. than take a black foam pad with 3M`s swirl remover and a high speed buffer.
We all now how much a pain in the *** swirls are (especially with a darker color or black car). And no matter how much u buff and polish and repeat u`ll always have a lil bit of a light swirl and it seems to go away till u wash it a few times than it`s swirls all over again. 3M just released there new product in `07 called Ultrafina and it`s new blue foam buffing pads. that`s supposed to be applied not more than 1800 rpm`s on a buffer and not to be buffed dry. since their stuff is oil based that`s how the Ultrafina works, being a lil wet still. trust me, the amount of detailing i`ve done i`ve never used a product that 100% takes out the swirls and even after washing the car numerous times not a single swirl came back. I checked out 3M`s website and i wasn`t able to find the Ultrafina but i didn`t look too long.
Ayway that`s just how i do my paint clean up, as for interior they`re stuffs good and but it doesnt really matter too much wat u use....as long as u keep it up ur vinyl/leather won`t crack or fade."
also, another kid was saying you can`t take out swirls with a foam pad, and that in order to remove swirls for longer than a couple weeks you need a wool pad.