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justin30513
12-20-2006, 08:41 AM
Just wondering what process(es) you rinseless care washers would use under these conditions. I`ve just started using this method in my business. I see 4-8 of vehicles like this per week. Let me know and thanks!
Here`s the pics.....
(I used conventional washing on these. Pressure washer too.)
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a127/justin30513/details026.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a127/justin30513/details027.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a127/justin30513/details005.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a127/justin30513/details004.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a127/justin30513/details001-1.jpg
bjackson8
12-20-2006, 08:51 AM
I know that it is possible to do a car that dirty with ONR, but I personally wouldn`t try. I will usually take it to the coin-op and just rinse the biggest part of the grime off, then use ONR.
Ditto. A pre-wash at the coin op is the key to using ONR
EBPcivicsi
12-20-2006, 09:11 AM
Neither of those vehicles could be cleaned safely with a no-rinse wash--IMO anyways. Now, after you throughly detail them, then you could maintain them with a no-rinse product, but those vehicles need to cleaned using traditional methods.
Scottwax
12-20-2006, 09:51 AM
Neither of those vehicles could be cleaned safely with a no-rinse wash--IMO anyways. Now, after you throughly detail them, then you could maintain them with a no-rinse product, but those vehicles need to cleaned using traditional methods.
I beg to differ.
QEW
http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/878qew_on_black.jpg
http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/878qew_on_pearl.jpg
ONR
http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/ONR1.jpg
http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/2004_Infiniti_G35_dirty.jpg
http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/2004_Infiniti_G35_half_washed.jpg
http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/500/2004_Infiniti_G35_washed.jpg
Ditto. A pre-wash at the coin op is the key to using ONR
Other than spraying the mud off the white truck, all of them could very safely be washed with ONR without any pre-rinsing.
justin30513
12-20-2006, 10:01 AM
So you would used the pressure washer to just hit the rockers, wells and wheels?
I`m not questioning the use of ONR....I`m just wanting to know how. I love it so far, well 4-in-1 that is. Hope you didn`t take me this way.
If a company would develop a simple 30 second video showing the use of a rinseless product, I believe sales would soar!
Scottwax
12-20-2006, 10:04 AM
Yeah, I`d knock the mud off and then use ONR to wash. Faster for me than conventional washing anyway.
EBPcivicsi
12-20-2006, 10:12 AM
I beg to differ.
QEW
Other than spraying the mud off the white truck, all of them could very safely be washed with ONR without any pre-rinsing.
I agree as long as they are being sprayed off first with high pressure.
I personally do not believe that any of those vehicles could be cleaned as well, or as safely with QEW or ONR(compared to traditional washing). I am not saying that it couldn`t be done, but IMO traditional methods are going to produce better results.
Even with the most delicate tools and techniques, without pre-rinsing, marring would occur when using a no-rinse wash on a vehicle that dirty. Now if you are going to detail it afterwards, no big deal. If it`s a maintenance wash--that`s another story.
Just my opinion....
Scottwax
12-20-2006, 10:16 AM
I agree as long as they are being sprayed off first with high pressure.
I personally do not believe that any of those vehicles could be cleaned as well, or as safely with QEW or ONR(compared to traditional washing). I am not saying that it couldn`t be done, but IMO traditional methods are going to produce better results.
Even with the most delicate tools and techniques, without pre-rinsing, marring would occur when using a no-rinse wash on a vehicle that dirty. Now if you are going to detail it afterwards, no big deal. If it`s a maintenance wash--that`s another story.
Just my opinion....
I have 13 years experience using rinseless washes. You? Unless you have used them, you really don`t know how well they work. Believe me, I wouldn`t wash black Porsches and G35s with their soft paint with ONR if I wasn`t fully confident in the product.
I`ll take the Pepsi challenge against anyone on this board, ONR vs conventional washing on equally dirty (but not caked in mud like the white truck...although I can do it) vehicles and not only will I be done faster, but the paint will look at least as good, if not better.
tyoung
12-20-2006, 10:20 AM
Even with a regular hose and bucket method, I`d preasure wash the mud off first. Then ONR with the QD strength on the lower panels, then go to town on it. My lower panels were filthy, like the red truck (not muddy though) on my black car, and I didn`t hose it down, just pretreated with QD. Worked every bit as good as a traditional wash, and no marring. It`s very slick stuff.
justin30513
12-20-2006, 10:23 AM
I have 13 years experience using rinseless washes. You? Unless you have used them, you really don`t know how well they work. Believe me, I wouldn`t wash black Porsches and G35s with their soft paint with ONR if I wasn`t fully confident in the product.
I`ll take the Pepsi challenge against anyone on this board, ONR vs conventional washing on equally dirty (but not caked in mud like the white truck...although I can do it) vehicles and not only will I be done faster, but the paint will look at least as good, if not better.
Scott I believe you. We just have bad conditions here. Lots of mud, rocks, and pine needles that just stick to the paint. Over 50% of our roads here are dirt and gravel. There was litterally clumps of mud coming from the wells. If its bad, I can alway pre-wash just to remove the worse and then ONR. I would still save time I bet!
Scott
I don`t disagree with what you`re saying and I`m really not in a place to comment on this because I`ve only used ONR twice. But wouldn`t you agree for those of us without 13 years of experience, we would be much safer running the car through a touchless before using ONR.
Scottwax
12-20-2006, 10:30 AM
Scott I believe you. We just have bad conditions here. Lots of mud, rocks, and pine needles that just stick to the paint. Over 50% of our roads here are dirt and gravel. There was litterally clumps of mud coming from the wells. If its bad, I can alway pre-wash just to remove the worse and then ONR. I would still save time I bet!
In those conditions, I`d pre-rinse as well. You *can* clean mud off vehicles with ONR or QEW but it is more time consuming and takes several buckets of water.
Integra81
12-20-2006, 10:31 AM
Yeah, I`d knock the mud off and then use ONR to wash. Faster for me than conventional washing anyway.
Hey Scott out of curiousity, let`s say you didn`t have a pressure washer..how would you knock the mud off safely?
Integra81
12-20-2006, 10:32 AM
disregard that you answered about a min before I could post :)