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golfdude
11-12-2006, 12:36 PM
Here`s my big question...is the Zaino line a substitute for traditional polishing (paint correction), or is it designed for paint protection (meaning you would still have to polish, but instead of using a glaze, sealant and then wax, you would use the Zaino line)? Thanks for the help.

Setec Astronomy
11-12-2006, 12:51 PM
If you are using a(n oily) glaze before a sealant, you are asking for trouble. The Zaino line contains a mild paint correction product (Z-PC), but the Zaino line is primarily a protectant one. If you are using a polish prior to Zaino that contains oils (like Meguiar`s polishes) you will need to remove any oil residues before Zaino application.

ZaneO
11-12-2006, 01:27 PM
ZPC Fusion is a mild paint cleaner/abrasive polish. Z5 Pro and Z2 Pro are sealants.

imported_GregCavi
11-12-2006, 01:47 PM
ZPC Fusion is a mild paint cleaner/abrasive polish. Z5 Pro and Z2 Pro are sealants.



That is correct. With that said though, The ZPC can really tackle some paint correction as seen below, and still finish perfect.





All done with ZPC via PC speed 6, orange light cut pad



http://www.pinnacle-detailing.com/lincoln%20mark%20VIII/mk1.jpg



http://www.pinnacle-detailing.com/lincoln%20mark%20VIII/mk4.jpg



Greg

Dan
11-12-2006, 02:44 PM
ZPC has some really good initial bite. I had a couple of scratches on the side of my car, not too deep into the clear coat but way worse than swirls. I tried to get rid of them using ScratchX and they hardly budged. I hit them with ZPC and they were gone fast.

golfdude
11-20-2006, 12:36 AM
If you are using a(n oily) glaze before a sealant, you are asking for trouble.



Thank-you everyone for the comments. But, I must ask for more clarification of this topic. I might use glaze in two ways:



Polish, AIO, Glaze (RMG), then P21S or Collinite 476S



or



Polish, Glaze (RMG), Menzerna FMJ, Collinite 476S or P21S



Please tell me what is wrong, if anything, using these techniques, and how should I modify my techniques to use glaze more effectively without sacrificing it`s durability.

imported_Bence
11-20-2006, 07:24 AM
Sealants may not last over a glaze as they can not bond as tightly to them. This is product dependent. If you use a more stable glaze like FK1 303, which can correct a little bit, you`ll gain more durability but it won`t fill too much. Glazes which are great fillers are better in conjunction with a (heavy) carnauba.

wannafbody
11-20-2006, 10:27 AM
ZPC can remove up to 1500 grit sanding marks with the right pad and machine. That`s fairly aggressive for a product that finishes so nicely.

golfdude
11-25-2006, 12:36 AM
Any other comments on my techniques or other suggested products to go over glaze to produce long-term protection??

ZaneO
11-25-2006, 10:49 AM
Drop the glaze if you`re concerned about long-term protection.

imported_GregCavi
11-25-2006, 11:55 AM
Drop the glaze if you`re concerned about long-term protection.



Ditto, your 100% better off finishing with a filler/oil free polish.



Greg

GearHead_1
11-25-2006, 12:04 PM
That is correct. With that said though, The ZPC can really tackle some paint correction as seen below, and still finish perfect.





All done with ZPC via PC speed 6, orange light cut pad



http://www.pinnacle-detailing.com/lincoln%20mark%20VIII/mk1.jpg



http://www.pinnacle-detailing.com/lincoln%20mark%20VIII/mk4.jpg



Greg

The lighting/angle of the picture has changed in the before and after frames and the shot is not as tight in the afters. I still see swirls in the lower light reflections (particularly the right side). Did this remove them or not? It doesn`t appear to be the best example of what the product can do.

imported_GregCavi
11-25-2006, 12:48 PM
Gearhead- the lower panels get hit with the spot buff pads, which unfortunately had not been done at the time of the picture. I think the following set will help clear up any confusion.



http://www.pinnacle-detailing.com/lincoln%20mark%20Viii/mk2.jpg



http://www.pinnacle-detailing.com/lincoln%20mark%20Viii/mk3.jpg



Also take note that the left is after one pass, and the right has no polishing.



Greg

GearHead_1
11-25-2006, 01:23 PM
Gearhead- the lower panels get hit with the spot buff pads, which unfortunately had not been done at the time of the picture. I think the following set will help clear up any confusion.



http://www.pinnacle-detailing.com/lincoln%20mark%20Viii/mk2.jpg



http://www.pinnacle-detailing.com/lincoln%20mark%20Viii/mk3.jpg



Also take note that the left is after one pass, and the right has no polishing.



Greg

Greg thanks for the clarification. I had never seen any of your work that I hadn`t fully appreciated until this first set. I knew you had it in you.