View Full Version : Pinnacle PCL, ASR, AFP
fdizzle
09-30-2006, 03:02 PM
SO I 86`s my Adams stuff and have now switched to pinnacle and Klasse. :spot
Anyone have any reviews or expierience with the follwoign pinnacle products:
Paintwork cleansing lotion (light polish,no abrasives, contains fillers)
Advanced swiril remover (medium polish, light cutting ability, no fillers, contains diminshing abrsives)
Advanced finishing polish (final polish, no fillers or abrasives
I also got the souveran paste wax, but why discuss a product that has been discussed a million times. Im trying to avoid starting dull and old news threads.
thanks in advance
Bigpoppa3346
09-30-2006, 03:25 PM
The ASR and AFP are eh...nothing great. Got them with the starter kit with my PC and can`t really see myself using them again. Dusts a bit, expensive and didn`t really notice any great cutting ability.
imported_Dave KG
09-30-2006, 04:55 PM
The Swirl Remover I found struggled a little to remove swilrs, even on softer paints by PC - but what it did do was leave a very nice wet looking finish. The AFP I really like, its an excellent finishing polish for only light marring, and a very nice wet looking finish again.
What I really would like to do is try these out on the rotary and see if that kicks in any greater swirl removal capability... In fact, thats exactly what I`m gonna do when I next get a spare moment.
Accumulator
10-01-2006, 02:47 PM
The PCL has been reformulated and I`ve only used the older stuff. It *did* have mild abrasives, just that they were so mild that you couldn`t expect any real correction, at least not unless your paint was *very* soft. Decent cleaning, and very user-friendly. I always liked this product though I haven`t used it all that recently. As a very mild paint cleaner that leaves some mild fillers behind instead of some mild protection (like AIO leaves) it`s good stuff.
mblgjr
10-02-2006, 12:17 AM
The only thing worth having out of that list is the PCL. It is a light cleanser/glaze that is easy to work with and works well on an already polished car that just needs freshening.
Crystal Mist is a must have for keeping Souveran alive between washes.
The XMT`s are better than the aforementioned swirl removers.
martinager
10-02-2006, 12:43 AM
You should look at the Pinnacle XMT line. If you havent opened the swirl removers, I suggest a return.
My favorites are the XMT3, XMT1, and the XMT Carnuba Glaze.
XMT3 is so versatile, it can be heavy cut on a yellow pad, then an intermediate on an orange. Plus the XMT line is made just for the pc.
heres some results I got using the XMT line. Pics are in chronological order of XMT polishing:
Before:
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/ryandamartini/IM001155.jpg
One pass on yellow:
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/ryandamartini/IM001158.jpg
Second Pass on the Yellow:
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/ryandamartini/IM001156.jpg
After the final on orange / XMT 1 anf Carnuba Glaze:
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/ryandamartini/IM001160.jpg
And another.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/ryandamartini/IM001159.jpg
fdizzle
10-02-2006, 10:34 AM
Nice. You should check out the other thread by Fast05stang about his XMT expierience. It`s all bad news. We did a black metallic pearl 300C with the ASR/PCL followed by AIO and SG - 90% of pain defects were gone, had to spot buff with a yelloe 4`` lc pad and asr to remove some bad cc scratches. Man paint is very finicky . . . .
on your xmt 1 app - did you ise a white or orange
what about the carnuba glaze - white or black pads?