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kurtis
08-15-2006, 08:59 PM
I recently purchased a 96 Mustang GT:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/toast523/xbxrna.jpg



As you can see from a distance the paint looks decent. However upclose its a different story. The paint really shows its age IMO. On the front are some lovebug splatters that are burned in, although Im not sure how deep. On the hood and roof there are marks that kind of look like water spots that stay there even after washing, claybar, and a very mild polishing. I also have little white marks scattered over both the hood and roof that I heard someone refer to as "spider webbing". Over all the paint just doesnt have the same mirrior like finish of other black cars that Ive washed for friends and such, even after a 6 hour day cleaning it up. I did notice that when I was going over it with the clay bar, I really wasnt picking up that much stuff, and overall the paint was suprisingly smooth. However, when I started polishing my pad got very dark, very quickly. The polish was also somewhat difficult to take off. This kinda made me think that maybe the clearcoat was shot or something? I thought it would have lasted longer than ten years though unless the previous owner was very hard on it or something.



I really dont know that much about paint, and am still learning about detailing, especially when it comes to older cars with less than perfect paint. So I dont really know what my options are here. But Im looking to restore it back to a mirrior like shine. I picked up a yellow pad for my porter cable and right now Im using the full menzerna product line, with both the final polish II and the intensive polish. I plan on really focusing on the hood tomorrow just to see if the paint over all is salvageable, but I wanted to get some opinions first, before I possibly make something worse or waste time trying to fix things that arent easily fixable.



At this point I was thinking of three possible options: 1)getting it wet sanded and re-clearcoated (I dont know anything about painting cars to know if that is even possible or how much it would cost), 2) trying to fix it myself after getting advice from here, 3) taking it to a professional detailer if you guys think they could fix it with a high speed buffer or some other tricks of the trade. Sorry for the novel/lack of detailed pictures, but Id really appreciate any help or advice you guys could give me.

CelicaLover
08-15-2006, 09:06 PM
It could just be that you have single stage paint. A good way to check is to take some polish on a rag and wipe it on a body panel you don`t really see. If you have SS paint color will rub off onto your rag.



my .02$

Way2SSlow
08-15-2006, 09:21 PM
Cant tell from the pic that you posted, but if it were me....I`d just do the best that you can with what you have and if you`re not happy, then maybe consider a repaint. It is a very good looking car, and if you are planning on keeping it for some time, then maybe a repaint is what you want anyway. I`m at the same place with my 94 pala. It`s really starting to show it`s age, but I`ve decided just to live with it for now and get a repaint down the road. HTH,





Wade

David Fermani
08-15-2006, 10:14 PM
Nice Car. I`ve brought back several black Mustangs back from the paint grave. If possible try this:



4000 grit sandpaper

medium cut polish with wool pad(rotary)

2 step glaze with foam pad(yellow then blue)

carnuba wax (by hand or with pc)



Don`t pay to repaint it until trying you try to repair it. It`s a perfect car to learn on too. Good Luck.

martinager
08-15-2006, 11:06 PM
Nice Car. I`ve brought back several black Mustangs back from the paint grave. If possible try this:



4000 grit sandpaper

medium cut polish with wool pad(rotary)

2 step glaze with foam pad(yellow then blue)

carnuba wax (by hand or with pc)



Don`t pay to repaint it until trying you try to repair it. It`s a perfect car to learn on too. Good Luck.



I dont think it good advice to learn on a rotary on his new car...



Take some close ups so that we may evaluate it better. :)

kurtis
08-15-2006, 11:19 PM
Alrighty, Im off work tomorrow so Ill try to get a camera to post up some pictures.

imported_themightytimmah
08-16-2006, 12:59 AM
What part of Florida are you in? I could probably take a crack at it with a rotary and give you an idea if its salvageable or not if you`re near the Melbourne/Palm Bay area.

kurtis
08-16-2006, 08:44 AM
What part of Florida are you in? I could probably take a crack at it with a rotary and give you an idea if its salvageable or not if you`re near the Melbourne/Palm Bay area.



Wow, I really appreciate the offer but Im all the way over in Tampa. :doh

kurtis
08-16-2006, 06:48 PM
OK, I snapped some pictures of the carnage today. Im not too handy with a camera to say the least, but hopefully you can get an idea..



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/toast523/Picture008.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/toast523/Picture007.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/toast523/Picture006.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/toast523/Picture005.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/toast523/Picture004.jpg



Bottom picture shows a lot of the bug splatters and rock chips, among the man other imperfections. Overall the paint just doesnt seem as black as it could/should be. And yes, these pictures are within a week or two of being claybarred, and comming off a fresh wash so everything you see is IN the paint.



I also went at it today with 3 layers of menzerna intensive polish with a yellow pad, 1 layer of final polish II with a white pad, then a glaze and two layers of the sealant, Ill post up pics in just a minute. It didnt seem to help all that much.

kurtis
08-16-2006, 06:59 PM
Ok here are a few I just took. The flash REALLY highlights the defects, it doesnt look THAT bad in person, it doesnt look nearly as good as the ones with the flash off either. But the defects you see in the ones with the flash are there in person and easy enough to spot, I mean, Im anal about my cars but anyone would notice these.





http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/toast523/Picture009.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/toast523/Picture010.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/toast523/Picture012.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/toast523/Picture011.jpg

David Fermani
08-16-2006, 09:27 PM
I dont think it good advice to learn on a rotary on his new car...



:)



Why not give it a try. He has nothing to loose. The paint is chipping bad and he`s already considering a repaint. It`s not like he`ll burn through the clear coat. From the pictures, there`s not any depth to the finish and it needs to be high speed polished. Just don`t use a compound and do 1 small to medium section 1st. Give it a try...

I live in Lake Worth and would be happy to show you the potential of your finish if you want to take a drive one weekend. I`ll even show you the basics of using a rotary too.