Klasse Althernative

[wing122]

I currently have a silver RX300(it`s my parents, but I take care of it).

It has oil stains from where my mom`s working and she park there all the time. Every car there end up with little spot of oil. I already have the mother`s claybar.

Quick question for that: Do you use the quick detailer as the lubricant?



The other thing is, I`m looking for a wax/sealant that protects the car for around 6 months or so with each application. The reason I`m looking for this kind of stuff is that it is hard to take care of the paint during winter.



Other than Klasse which I heard changes the colour property of a car. What other choices are there that`s not too costly. Around $50 Canadian/US.



Thanks all.

[GeorgePaul]

I already have the mother`s claybar. Quick question for that: Do you use the quick detailer as the lubricant?

Yes




The other thing is, I`m looking for a wax/sealant that protects the car for around 6 months or so with each application. Other than Klasse which I heard changes the colour property of a car. What other choices are there that`s not too costly. Around $50 Canadian/US..

Lots of people like Collinite #845 and #476s. BTW, I use Klasse and haven`t seen any "colour property" changes on my car.

[s2skimon]

klasse alternative = werkstatt

[drck1000]

I have both AIO and SG. I would say that AIO is probablyt he product that I use the most for MANY different applications.



Another alternative to Klasse AIO/SG would be FK1 215/2180. I have 2180, but haven`t had a chance to try just yet. I understand that it`s a little tricker to apply than SG and that it`s removal is easier. However, I have never had any problems with removing SG. I think I was applying thin and assume so since haven`t had a problem with removal.

[wing122]

Are those easy to find in Toronto?



How about poorboy`s products?

I really have no clue what I should use. Currently I do have a bit of swirls(not noticeable on a light color car) so hopefully something that can get rid of that after claying.



OK...so I read like all the titles in 28 pages of detailing products and picked the ones I feel interested in.



AIO + SG/Zaino(i`m still not sure what number)/AJ(dun think i can find it in Canada)

Poorboy`s EX-P, Natty Original/Blue(what`s the difference).

Meguiars #21(sounds pretty interesting)

Zymol recommended by Kirk from Purdon...sounds pricey tho...



I guess the bottom line for me is. Something that isn`t that hard to get in Toronto.

I can do washing+claying. As for prep(i need to know which one is a good prep, AIO?)

Since this is a silver metallic color, I`m not sure if I want shiny/wet, or flaky...opinions needed.

Lastly...durability especially for the winter....

[foxtrapper]

Oil soaks into the paint, it doesn`t stick on the surface like a particle. Claying is great, but it does its thing at removing surface contaminants, not soaked in ones. For that, you want some sort of detergent action.



Klasse doesn`t have paint changing properties any more than any other acrylic product. White cars don`t become green, and red cars don`t turn blue. Any wax type product changes the appearance by changing the surface reflectivity, and whatever optical properties it has for light transmission.

[wing122]

Oil soaks into the paint, it doesn`t stick on the surface like a particle. Claying is great, but it does its thing at removing surface contaminants, not soaked in ones. For that, you want some sort of detergent action.



Klasse doesn`t have paint changing properties any more than any other acrylic product. White cars don`t become green, and red cars don`t turn blue. Any wax type product changes the appearance by changing the surface reflectivity, and whatever optical properties it has for light transmission.



So, wash it with like Dawn?

[foxtrapper]

Yes, something like Dawn will work well on oil. Because it`s soaked into the paint, it`ll take some work.



You will probably get some replies decrying Dawn as the incarnate of Satan himself, but chemically, it`s a run of the mill detergent, just like most car washes. Just a bit more concentrated. I do find Dawn difficult to get rinsed off cleanly and completely though.



Many polishes contain oils to help "rejuvenate" the paint, just like the oil spots you`ve got here. In fact it`s an old old trick to shine up faded paint with an oily rag.

[imported_mburnickas]

Poorboy`s EX-P, Natty Original/Blue(what`s the difference).









PoorBoy EXP is a sealant and there Natty is the wax you put on after EXP to give it a wet look. The Blue is for dark car etc.





I just order some Jeff werkstatt products to see how they do.

[wing122]

Yes, something like Dawn will work well on oil. Because it`s soaked into the paint, it`ll take some work.



You will probably get some replies decrying Dawn as the incarnate of Satan himself, but chemically, it`s a run of the mill detergent, just like most car washes. Just a bit more concentrated. I do find Dawn difficult to get rinsed off cleanly and completely though.



Many polishes contain oils to help "rejuvenate" the paint, just like the oil spots you`ve got here. In fact it`s an old old trick to shine up faded paint with an oily rag.



What else can I use to get rid of the oil spot. There is some tree sap too, but i`m sure claying should get those out.

[bluzman]

You could try Wolfgang Deep Gloss paint sealant instead of the klasse!! It comes off alot easier then the Klasse SG!

[Thomas Dekany]

I have both AIO and SG. I would say that AIO is probablyt he product that I use the most for MANY different applications.



Another alternative to Klasse AIO/SG would be FK1 215/2180. I have 2180, but haven`t had a chance to try just yet. I understand that it`s a little tricker to apply than SG and that it`s removal is easier. However, I have never had any problems with removing SG. I think I was applying thin and assume so since haven`t had a problem with removal.





Actually FK1`s = to AIO is #216 - and I can tell you that it will look fantastic on silver.

[wing122]

Actually FK1`s = to AIO is #216 - and I can tell you that it will look fantastic on silver.



I`m sorry. I did read through most of the forum but what is FK1?



Also, if it`s hard to get in Canada. I probably will opt for something easily accessible, but better than the OTC stuff.

[fcnghkkc]

Did you think of ordering off the web. www.eshine.ca seems to have a complete arsenal of detailing products that people recommend on this website. It`s located in Ontario so delivery is fast and no duty taxes. I`m thinking of ordering from them this time. Check the site out. Good luck. :wavey

[imported_mburnickas]

eshine looks good but it is me or there prices seem kind of high?