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Cosmom3
06-05-2006, 09:45 PM
A couple very high end detailers in my area have told me they wax with their hands...as its "better" than say a yellow wax pad. I dunno seems kinda weird. So I decided to try it on my car. Harder than it sounds or looks, but I wanna hear your opinions on the matter at hand....lol.. :think2



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victory
06-05-2006, 10:09 PM
i think the theory behind it is that the body heat from your hand softens the wax or some such thing. Not sure if there`s any validity to that theory.

94BlkStang
06-05-2006, 11:06 PM
A couple very high end detailers in my area have told me they wax with their hands...as its "better" than say a yellow wax pad. I dunno seems kinda weird. So I decided to try it on my car. Harder than it sounds or looks, but I wanna hear your opinions on the matter at hand....lol.. :think2



Thanks



Seems more gimmick than performance. There was a video recently from a very high end detailer in the UK that did it by hand. He claimed he was able to get more even coverage doing it that way and massaging the wax into the metal, but I think it was more for show than anything. I would venture a guess that you couldn`t tell the difference with the same person waxing by hand and waxing with a pad.

Anthony O.
06-06-2006, 08:15 AM
It has to do with the solvents in the wax. Thinking goes that if you use a sponge to apply the wax then the solvents get soaked up by the sponge instead of applied to the paint. These solvents, if fully applied, are said to give the paint a much more "wet" look.



Hence the method of hand application. By warming up the wax in your bare hands you are able to fully apply the whole wax to the paint. I do cars in this manner also and at first it can be very odd but after awhile you`ll get the hang of it. I only do this with 2 waxes, Trade Secret and Victoria. I have noticed a difference in appearance only with these two so far.



Anthony

jimmie jam
06-06-2006, 08:18 AM
i wax by hand if no one is paying me!!! :)

GeneralEclectic
06-06-2006, 08:28 AM
It has to do with the solvents in the wax. Thinking goes that if you use a sponge to apply the wax then the solvents get soaked up by the sponge instead of applied to the paint. These solvents, if fully applied, are said to give the paint a much more "wet" look.



Hence the method of hand application. By warming up the wax in your bare hands you are able to fully apply the whole wax to the paint. I do cars in this manner also and at first it can be very odd but after awhile you`ll get the hang of it. I only do this with 2 waxes, Trade Secret and Victoria. I have noticed a difference in appearance only with these two so far.



Anthony



I think you`re on the right track, as strange as it sounds. There`s a high-end custom furniture manufacturer not far from where I live. I`ve seen them in the final stages of their products applying a paste wax with a tool that looks like an upside-down muffin, about 4" in diameter. Think of the top of the muffin covered in a soft upholstery-like leather over firm padding. They put a dab of wax on it and rub it into the surface of the wood. I think it`s similar in concept to what you describe. I can say for sure that their end product is spectacular and commands a very high price.

Accumulator
06-06-2006, 08:39 AM
The people here who use the Estate Line from Zymol do it this way. Yeah, it`s all about body heat softening the product and is, apparently, necessary with some products. I did it a few times with Souveran and didn`t notice any benefit.

MichaelM
06-06-2006, 10:16 AM
I have never waxed by hand but will at times polish with a finger.

Glossequation
06-06-2006, 11:30 AM
A couple very high end detailers in my area have told me they wax with their hands...as its "better" than say a yellow wax pad. I dunno seems kinda weird. So I decided to try it on my car. Harder than it sounds or looks, but I wanna hear your opinions on the matter at hand....lol.. :think2



Thanks



waste of time.

Cosmom3
06-06-2006, 01:57 PM
Yup, I also saw the video with the guy from UK. I used this method on a customers car this past weekend, and all I noticed was my hands werent so tired :waxing:

MrSelfDestruct
06-09-2006, 02:56 PM
I always wear disposable latex surgeon gloves when I`m waxing cars with paint sealant at work- otherwise it dries the S**T out of my skin! I`m no wimp or anything that`s really the ONLY time I wear gloves and I clean cars all day. Hell, even after helping a friend wax his car with Mother`s paste my skin felt a bit dry afterwards. I really woun`t want to ever apply it directly with my bare hands... any "better" results would be purely mental.

lbls1
06-09-2006, 03:43 PM
I exclusively wax via hand. I feel, as a persona preference, that I can apply and work wax more effectively by hand. With my main wax, the EGZymol, it is required that the wax has to be applied (literally) with your hands. I use latex gloves (ps..do not use rubber gloves..ever) as well when I am working with the Zymol, as it keeps the process somewhat cleaner, and for me it gives me more assurance against accidental streaks or marring.



My other favorite wax, p21s, I apply with the applicator via hand with satisfactory results.

MorBid
06-09-2006, 08:04 PM
I wax and seal by hand. I`ve never seen the advantage of using a machine. But then I don`t use waxes that need to "set up" either.

Big Leegr
06-10-2006, 12:54 PM
I think you`re on the right track, as strange as it sounds. There`s a high-end custom furniture manufacturer not far from where I live. I`ve seen them in the final stages of their products applying a paste wax with a tool that looks like an upside-down muffin, about 4" in diameter. Think of the top of the muffin covered in a soft upholstery-like leather over firm padding. They put a dab of wax on it and rub it into the surface of the wood. I think it`s similar in concept to what you describe. I can say for sure that their end product is spectacular and commands a very high price.

This sounds like French Polishing-VERY labor intensive!



As to "by hand," I tried it once, but didn`t like the way my calluses seemed to add friction/grinding sounds to the paint. :nervous:

Beason
06-11-2006, 11:04 AM
I wax and seal by hand. I`ve never seen the advantage of using a machine. But then I don`t use waxes that need to "set up" either.



I believe they are talking about putting the wax directly onto your hand not a applicator pad.