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Florida-LS
05-15-2006, 06:33 PM
Well my 2001 Lincoln LS is starting to get up there in miles and I am going to replace it in the fall. I would buy another LS V8 but 2006 is the last year for the LS (shame) so I won`t be buying one (I am waiting for the 2007s).



I have narrowed my choices down to the Audi A3 and the Acura TSX. Both cars have I4 engines (which will take some getting used to I suppose coming from a V8). Both engines make 200HP but the Audi needs a turbo to do it, the Acura is N/A. Both can be had with a 6-spd.



I would like to hear some opinions from owners of these cars so if you have a few minutes to yack please let me know what you think of them. Thanks.

stilez
05-16-2006, 04:55 AM
Style, fit, finish, comfort, I would have to veer towards Acura.





I`ve been up close to both and I am just not fond of the A3 styling...The "big-hatchback" design screams younger crowd. The TSX, on the other hand, is far more sophisticated and refined. The gaps are nearly invisible and all around the car is stunning. If the car had more power, I`d probably own one.

DETAILKING
05-16-2006, 06:23 AM
If you drive the A3 3.2 AWD....your mind will be made up...



Seriously, my boss has one, the car is solid, and handles sweet. Only bad thing is that there is no manual transmission yet.

awahl63
05-16-2006, 06:32 AM
Drive both. I have yet to drive the A3 but I`ve driven the new A4 and the A3 will only be lighter. I really wasn`t fond of the TSX I thought it was sluggish.

Tucci
05-16-2006, 06:38 AM
The TSX is very sluggish due to its lack of tourqe. If you like the A3, why not go for the 5 door GTI that will be out in the fall and save yourself 10grand. I sell VW so I may be biased :woot: , but the GIT/A3 (same car) are safer, faster, more fun to drive and have more interior space than the TSX.

AlpinE90
05-16-2006, 06:44 AM
You may want to try the DSG on the A3. I`ve heard so many good things about it. But if you must go for manual, TSX is the way to go. I think there will be a new model next year.

Krautfed 03
05-16-2006, 06:46 AM
I am on my 2nd Audi. I looked at Acura, it just didn`t have the "feel" of the European brands. Additionally, while Acura has outstanding quality, I have several co-workers that have 2 year old TLs, and the interior really looks worn after just a couple of years. These guys are not Autopians, but they do take good care of their cars. Look at a few high mileage pre-owned cars, both Audi and Acura, and you will get a good idea of how each will hold up.

stilez
05-16-2006, 06:57 AM
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/cwash36/IMGA1489.jpg





vs.





http://www.motorcities.com/media/image/640/05I4M570209735A/2006-Acura-TSX-Fresh-Face-A.jpeg





Have you thought about an A4? I just don`t see a linear comparison between the TSX and A3? I drove an A4 2.0t with leather. It was not optioned out at all and still provided an excellent bang for the buck, plus the lease rates are great. Here is the one I have worked on...



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/kappapsi497/2005/Summer%2005/IMG_1232.jpg

imported_jaobrien6
05-16-2006, 07:48 AM
My wife has a 2004 TSX that we`ve been very, very happy with. It`s true that it could use a little more power, but whether that is a problem depends on your preferences, and how you drive. Take one for a spin and see what you think. We`ve had the car for 3 years now, and the interior is holding up great, I wouldn`t worry about that, personally. The one thing you`ll notice is the TSX has noticeably more room for people (man that backseat in the A3 is tight), while the A3 has better cargo carrying ability, due to the hatchback. I think both are very good looking cars, but I definitely have to give the TSX interior the nod. I think the TSX has one of the best interiors in this price range. If I had to do it again, I would consider the A3, but I`m not convinced that Audi has solved their reliability problems. I guess this only matters if you plan to keep the car for a while (past warranty), but is something to consider.



Either one, you`ll probably be happy with, but we definitely love the TSX.

Accumulator
05-16-2006, 08:17 AM
Noting that I`m an Audi guy...



The Acura is almost certainly gonna be a more hassle-free ownership experience, for whatever that`s worth.



IMO the two cars are so completely different that you`ll love one more than the other once you spend some time with them. At the risk of over-generalizing, there are Acura guys and there are Audi guys. Just gotta figure out which one you are. I know people in both camps and they`d never be happy with the other car.



But then I prefer to keep the cars that I like regardess of their mileage....and you`re talking about some very different driving dynamics compared to the LS.

chml17l
05-16-2006, 09:00 AM
2 cents from another Audi guy:



Owning 2 Audis (2002 TT Roadster/2002 A4) has lead me to believe Acura`s overall intial quality is probably better when compared to our 1997 Honda Prelude. The wife`s TT had ~ 8 niggling issues from the day we brought it home. Everything from loose turn signal marker lights, eletrical locking gremlins, covertible top folding issues, etc. Nothing that ever left her stranded, but more annoyances that did make us question how things might hold up later on in the owner experience. To the dealerships credit, they did eventually fix all the TT`s problems and nothing has reoccured to date. My A4 had a much better intial quality impression, but I still had two issues (windshield wiper washer problem and the dreaded ignition coil recall) that were all fixed under warranty. I`m still trying to track down a rattle in the overhead light cluster that the dealership could never resolve.



Be sure to consider your choices based on the dealership`s service reputation, too. Audi`s warranty is 4 yrs./50,000 mi. with included maintenance (filters, wipers, etc.) while I believe Acura`s is the same except no maintenance items.

hugj
05-16-2006, 09:36 AM
Another Audi Guy here (S4 & A6)(hating the clearcoat!)



It is kind of strange but it seems that people generally like japanese styling or european styling. I rarely see people who mix their cars.



The 2.0T engine has received many rave reviews. The A3 is a great car in either 2.0T or 3.2 V6. I have driven both. Unfortunately to get quattro in the A3 you need the 3.2 V6 and optioned out that puppy is mid-upper $30s. That is where the A4 fills in the spot- you can get the 2.0T with quattro and cloth seats if you want. I`m actually anxious to see what the 5 door GTI brings to the table albeit no quattro/4 motion.



A good friend of mine has a TSX and another friend has the TL. They are Honda/Acura guys. They couldn`t wait for the day they could buy those cars and have nothing bad to say about the cars at all. I`ve driven both and they are both nice cars. I do have to say that fit and finish are below that of Audi.



Both are capable cars and it really depends on what you are looking for. Drive them and then decide.



I hate to throw this out there but the Saab (I can hear the protests now -"Did he actually say Saab?") 9-3 SportCombi is a surprisingly nice little ride as well in the same horsepower/price range as the base A3 and the TSX. The 9-3 Aero with the turbo V6 isn`t too bad either.

BigAl3
05-16-2006, 09:52 AM
my sister has a tsx and loves it!

SpoiledMan
05-16-2006, 10:06 AM
I`m going to skip the this is better than that part.:D Used pricing (~2 years old) for TSX`s around me are pretty close to what the car costs new. That`s keeping some pretty good value.

tanha
05-16-2006, 10:06 AM
2 cents from another Audi guy:



Owning 2 Audis (2002 TT Roadster/2002 A4) has lead me to believe Acura`s overall intial quality is probably better when compared to our 1997 Honda Prelude. The wife`s TT had ~ 8 niggling issues from the day we brought it home. Everything from loose turn signal marker lights, eletrical locking gremlins, covertible top folding issues, etc. Nothing that ever left her stranded, but more annoyances that did make us question how things might hold up later on in the owner experience. To the dealerships credit, they did eventually fix all the TT`s problems and nothing has reoccured to date. My A4 had a much better intial quality impression, but I still had two issues (windshield wiper washer problem and the dreaded ignition coil recoil) that were all fixed under warranty. I`m still trying to track down a rattle in the overhead light cluster that the dealership could never resolve.





Audi`s are notorious for odd problems like these, right off the lot. My S.O. used to work at an Audi dealership, and it was amazing to hear what goes wrong with those cars. Additionally, the parts are very expensive - wouldn`t want to own an out-of-warranty Audi.