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Kool_ZX3
04-27-2006, 05:39 PM
Well i placed the order...



PC 7424 with 2 white LC pads and 1 black LC pad with a 5" backing plate

Poorboys SSR2 and SSR1

and Natty`s Blue Paste Wax



Now i can join the PC crowd, I am going to read david`s guide on how to use the thing.



I think i am Going to hit the car with ssr2, then ssr1 and then hit it with nxt and top it with natty`s blue?



Sound Good?



Is ssr1 really needed after 2???



How much more agressive is 2.5 over 2.... I think i might need 2.5 but not very sure but i know i will really need ssr2 for sure....



Any advice is appreciated so i am well prepared... :)



I also don`t have a test subject like an old beater or panel which is the crappy part.

imported_cj99si
04-30-2006, 05:13 AM
Yeah its always good to work down with polishes that way theres no chance of hazing.

blkyukon
04-30-2006, 06:19 AM
Well i placed the order...



PC 7424 with 2 white LC pads and 1 black LC pad with a 5" backing plate

Poorboys SSR2 and SSR1

and Natty`s Blue Paste Wax



Now i can join the PC crowd, I am going to read david`s guide on how to use the thing.





I think i am Going to hit the car with ssr2, then ssr1 and then hit it with nxt and top it with natty`s blue?



Sound Good?



Is ssr1 really needed after 2???



How much more agressive is 2.5 over 2.... I think i might need 2.5 but not very sure but i know i will really need ssr2 for sure....



Depending on the color of the car...if it`s a dark solid color most likely you`ll need to use a finishing polish, like SSR1, if it`s a light or metallic color you could probably get away with just SSR2 as long as you break it down completely.



This is what something like SSR2 can take out:



http://melncal.com/detailing/pictures/ssr2_before.jpg



http://melncal.com/detailing/pictures/ssr2_after.jpg



Here is what something like SSR2.5 or DACP can remove:



http://paintcare-n-detailing.com/images/dacp_home.jpg










Any advice is appreciated so i am well prepared... :)



I also don`t have a test subject like an old beater or panel which is the crappy part.



Here is what I do with any new polish I use:





* Using a 1`x1` section - apply the polish the same as any other polish

* using little pressure and speed 4.5 - 5 work the polish in.

* At each change in the polish I remove a section and see how the paint looks

* repeat at each change until very little or no hazing is present (this will very depending on the abrasiveness of the polish).



The reason for speed 4.5-5 and little pressure is, it goes through the stages slower so you can determine when it`s broken down without under or over working the polish. Now you know what it looks like when it`s broken down you can increase the speed, pressure, etc. to get the job done.



Good luck

imported_cj99si
04-30-2006, 07:52 AM
Nice pics! I need to start using lights.





http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b111/CoreyandJessie/Detailing/IMG_0965.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b111/CoreyandJessie/Detailing/IMG_0969.jpg

You cant really see whats happening as well.

Kool_ZX3
04-30-2006, 08:55 AM
Depending on the color of the car...if it`s a dark solid color most likely you`ll need to use a finishing polish, like SSR1, if it`s a light or metallic color you could probably get away with just SSR2 as long as you break it down completely.



This is what something like SSR2 can take out:



http://melncal.com/detailing/pictures/ssr2_before.jpg



http://melncal.com/detailing/pictures/ssr2_after.jpg



Here is what something like SSR2.5 or DACP can remove:



http://paintcare-n-detailing.com/images/dacp_home.jpg











Here is what I do with any new polish I use:





* Using a 1`x1` section - apply the polish the same as any other polish

* using little pressure and speed 4.5 - 5 work the polish in.

* At each change in the polish I remove a section and see how the paint looks

* repeat at each change until very little or no hazing is present (this will very depending on the abrasiveness of the polish).



The reason for speed 4.5-5 and little pressure is, it goes through the stages slower so you can determine when it`s broken down without under or over working the polish. Now you know what it looks like when it`s broken down you can increase the speed, pressure, etc. to get the job done.



Good luck



I checked out your website in the links of your Sig and it was very helpful.



So at every stage i should take a MF and wipe a small section to check out the paint, then continue with the PC and do it again in the next stage and again and again? If so i will do that. How much working time did you get with 2.5?

blkyukon
04-30-2006, 10:23 AM
....So at every stage i should take a MF and wipe a small section to check out the paint, then continue with the PC and do it again in the next stage and again and again? If so i will do that. How much working time did you get with 2.5?



Some might see it as an overkill but when you are first starting out, it helps prevent under or over working the polish. Time can range from 2mins to 5mins and is determined by temp., humidity, polish, amount of polish, pressure, etc.





And don`t forget to use good light to see your progress!!

Kool_ZX3
05-04-2006, 11:39 AM
Well i tried it out today on the car and i couldn`t believe my eyes on how much of an improvement it made.... I am having trouble figuring out though when it`s ready to remove. I got to the point where i can`t basically see it and then i wiped it with a MF and it came right off. Does that mean it`s done when basically one swipe takes it off?

blkyukon
05-04-2006, 11:52 AM
Well i tried it out today on the car and i couldn`t believe my eyes on how much of an improvement it made.... I am having trouble figuring out though when it`s ready to remove. I got to the point where i can`t basically see it and then i wiped it with a MF and it came right off. Does that mean it`s done when basically one swipe takes it off?



Usually when it gets to that "holograph look" is when it`s ready to be removed, something like this:





http://paintcare-n-detailing.com/polish/images/08.jpg





....but again it depends on the polish you are using

Kool_ZX3
05-04-2006, 12:20 PM
I was using ssr2 myself and then ssr1. When i did remove it there was basically nothing there, almost invisible... Kinda like the picture. Then i took the towel and a few swipes it was all gone. I am trying not to work it to long or not work it long enough. Some odd spots were still sticky but most seemed dry and a few swipes took it off the surface.

catchx34
05-04-2006, 04:39 PM
what is an "LC" pad and does the color of the LC pad make a difference?