What to top Speed with?

[OneQuickGT1]

Going to order some speed soon for my dd, as I`m about out. Top with?? Poxy, 845? Thanks for the help!

[Oldfordisbetter]

I recommend HD Express.

[allenk4]

If you are topping an AIO...why not just use a Polish instead and then a high quality LSP applied with a DA?

Should take the same amount of time, yield a better finish and longer duration of protection.

[KBsToy]

If you are topping an AIO...why not just use a Polish instead and then a high quality LSP applied with a DA?

Should take the same amount of time, yield a better finish and longer duration of protection.

[Pats300zx]

I have a detail coming up and plan to top with Proxy.

[silverfox]

Top with poxy or express. Express is truly underrated.

[TroyScherer]

^ Agreed. Poxy or Express


I would lean towards Poxy as from my use Express is not your normal "spray wax" it takes a little more work that I care for on a spray wax. But the look and beading are good.

[OneQuickGT1]

Thanks all. Poxy it is, with HD express as my "booster"

[Meticulous]

Here is what I do. I mix Collonite 476s and HD Speed on the pad and apply it at the same time, let it dry to a haze and then remove. The addition of HD Speed to 476s makes for easier removal and the addition of 476s to HD Speed should extend the protection. I just did this on my 15 Chrysler 200 S.

[House of Wax]

If you are topping an AIO...why not just use a Polish instead and then a high quality LSP applied with a DA?

Should take the same amount of time, yield a better finish and longer duration of protection.

This. Topping an AIO completely defeats the purpose of using a AIO

[RaskyR1]

If you are topping an AIO...why not just use a Polish instead and then a high quality LSP applied with a DA?

Should take the same amount of time, yield a better finish and longer duration of protection.

Agreed. Never understood the point of topping an AIO. The whole point of an AIO is to do everything in ONE step.

If you`re going to go through the motions of adding a dedicated LSP you may as well use an actual polish that will give better results, allow you to verify the results, and have longer durability.

[gski]

If you are topping an AIO...why not just use a Polish instead and then a high quality LSP applied with a DA?

Should take the same amount of time, yield a better finish and longer duration of protection.

Are you sure? Can`t you wipe Speed off after you have completed the whole vehicle? That would seem to save time over wiping off a polish after each section.

Also, isn`t there less concern about marring while removing Speed versus a polish? Speed has Poxy versus a polish that exposes bare, unprotected paint.

I`m not being sarcastic, these are questions I`ve been thinking about.

[silverfox]

Topping a coating also defeats the purpose of a coating...but that doesn`t stop anybody does it?

[allenk4]

Are you sure? Can`t you wipe Speed off after you have completed the whole vehicle? That would seem to save time over wiping off a polish after each section.

Also, isn`t there less concern about marring while removing Speed versus a polish? Speed has Poxy versus a polish that exposes bare, unprotected paint.

I`m not being sarcastic, these are questions I`ve been thinking about.

When you wipe the car...you always do it section by section, unless you have extra arms (photos please).


I actually compound and then polish, section by section, instead of compounding the entire vehicle and then polishing the entire vehicle. I only have to move my lights and other gear half as much and I can check my results as I go


The times should be the same:

Two Passes with SPEED or M205...wipe off

One pass to apply a topper on your AIO or a quality LSP...wipe off


There should be no difference in the amount of marring when removing polish or AIO. The MF towel is more abrasive than a polish or AIO, especially when not properly used

[DBAILEY]

I don`t work an AIO nearly as much as I do with a medium/finishing polish, so I do save a lot of time using an AIO. And just about all of us lay down two coats/layers of LSP anyways to insure proper coverage (and hopefully increase the LSP film thickness and durability), so topping an AIO with a wax or sealant is not such a big deal.

AIO + LSP is 2 steps. Polish + LSP + LSP is three steps.