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    Great, thanks! Will help me save some time from unnecessary steps.

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    For me, the wash after all polishing steps would be with Dawn. In that case, I`d look at the water behavior after the wash and if all looked good I wouldn`t do an IPA wipe-down. If I washed with a regular car wash soap or ONR, I would personally go with an IPA wipe-down. I know ScottWax doesn`t do this if he uses ONR prior to a coating and I`d trust the man`s workflow, but I`m overly cautious.



    It`s one reason I like SPEED so much. I`ll do maintenance polishes (to get rid of water spots/light swirls) on the girlfriend`s car or friend`s/family`s cars and lay a wax right over top of it without worrying about getting rid of polishing oils.



    ONR, SPEED, wax, done. I like that.

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    flickshake- Getting back to one of your earlier Q`s, I would apply/remove your LSP by hand, not via machine. At least for starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accumulator
    flickshake- Getting back to one of your earlier Q`s, I would apply/remove your LSP by hand, not via machine. At least for starters.


    Any particular reason why? I have applied by hand before but I always seem to put on too much (for Klasse SG)... I was hoping maybe applying it by machine could help even it out a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flickshake
    Any particular reason why? I have applied by hand before but I always seem to put on too much (for Klasse SG)... I was hoping maybe applying it by machine could help even it out a little.


    Huh, that`s funny....I do my waxes (M16, Collinite) by machine, but I do sealants by hand, in part because *I* get a thinner application that way. With the waxes, I`m better able to "work" the product to the effect of being able to easily spread a tiny amount over a large area, while with the sealants, I *always* end up getting way too much on the (machine) pad and it flashes or soaks into the pad before I`ve covered a large enough area.



    Note that when using KSG, I would do a whole minivan, including all the jambs/etc. with *FAR* less than one ounce. I still have a lot of KSG left from the original bottle I bought over a dozen years ago...and I would apply 6+ coats to large vehicles and to many sets of wheels (in other words, I used it a *LOT*, and I also knocked it over a few times, spilling quite a bit).



    EDIT: Here`s how I do KSG- I hold the applicator over the top of the bottle and shake it, depositing one drop of product on the pad. Repeat until the pad is just slightly moist with KSG. Apply to panel, so thinly that I can`t see it; I go by feel and as soon as the pad starts to "grab" instead of "sliding", I again hold it over the bottle and apply maybe five or six more drops. If, at any time, I can see the KSG on the panel after its dried, I figure I used way too much. I do the whole vehicle before buffing off, with the exception of trim (which I WOWO). When buffing off, I fog the surface with my breath- the moisture makes it buff off easier and helps me see what`s been done/hasn`t. /EDIT



    These days my primary sealants are FK1000P and the UPP I`m slowly using up. Same story with both of those, I do a whole vehicle with far less product than it would take to prime/keep wet a machine pad.



    But hey, that`s just me, maybe it`ll work differently for you.



    And while I advocated by-hand removal/buffing, I do often use MF bonnets on my Cyclo for that. Still gotta finish up by hand to get that last 1% most of the time though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accumulator
    Note that when using KSG, I would do a whole minivan, including all the jambs/etc. with *FAR* less than one ounce. I still have a lot of KSG left from the original bottle I bought over a dozen years ago...and I would apply 6+ coats to large vehicles and to many sets of wheels (in other words, I used it a *LOT*, and I also knocked it over a few times, spilling quite a bit).



    EDIT: Here`s how I do KSG- I hold the applicator over the top of the bottle and shake it, depositing one drop of product on the pad. Repeat until the pad is just slightly moist with KSG. Apply to panel, so thinly that I can`t see it; I go by feel and as soon as the pad starts to "grab" instead of "sliding", I again hold it over the bottle and apply maybe five or six more drops. If, at any time, I can see the KSG on the panel after its dried, I figure I used way too much. I do the whole vehicle before buffing off, with the exception of trim (which I WOWO). When buffing off, I fog the surface with my breath- the moisture makes it buff off easier and helps me see what`s been done/hasn`t. /EDIT


    On our local detailing forum, we have a number of people who transfer some of their KSG to a syringe, and apply, as you mentioned, using a few drops on the applicator per panel - kind of how people apply Opti-Coat, I imagine

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Fermani
    Skip HD UNO and go right for HD CUT. Super easy to work with and leaves a very nice finish behind. HD Polish after is all that is need to perfect your paint and maintain it.


    What he said! HD Cut followed by HD Polish is the way to go!
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    It seems as though HD Polish needs to be worked for a bit. If not, it`s not the easiest to remove.

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    Does any else having dusting issues with HD polish? I got some on a trade, so im not sure how old it is. Its really thick. But I do love the results from it, its my go to final polish. Just wondering if there was ever a tweak to the formulation?

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    There shouldn`t be any dusting unless you have applied too much product, worked it too long or haven`t cleaned your pad. Can you explain the process you use as far as prime, clean, reapply, work time.....
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    I put 4 dime size drops on a fresh pad and do about 4-5 passes and repeat. I will rub a cotton towel into the pad after 3 or 4 applications. I thought I read somewhere to not prime the pad with Hd polish? Work time is fairly short, but wipe off has always been very easy. Just dusts way more then I expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J504
    I put 4 dime size drops on a fresh pad and do about 4-5 passes and repeat. I will rub a cotton towel into the pad after 3 or 4 applications. I thought I read somewhere to not prime the pad with Hd polish? Work time is fairly short, but wipe off has always been very easy. Just dusts way more then I expected.
    I use 4-5 pea size drops for my initial section and then 2-3 pea size drops for each section after that--clean the pad after every other section with a denture brush and MF towel --- use four pads per car and have had no dusting. Work time seems to be long to me.

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    Used HD Polish for the first time yesterday/today using PC. Had the same issues as J504. I used pea sized drops. Used 1 spritz of water on pad. Work time was short. Breakdown was fast. 1 pad per panel or panel + 1/2 due to pad turning dirty quite quickly. Never saw the dust till I finished and saw it everywhere under halogen, especially in all the door jams. I thought this was dust free? Removal was very easy. Final gloss was on par with 85RD.



    Will redo some panels again using less product and see what happens. Maybe move the PC faster thru the panels?

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    No spraying the pad with HD POLISH. Why did you do that? Humidity will be your enemy with HD POLISH.



    What speed and pad did you use? What color car and make? Year?





    Quote Originally Posted by jmsc
    Used HD Polish for the first time yesterday/today using PC. Had the same issues as J504. I used pea sized drops. Used 1 spritz of water on pad. Work time was short. Breakdown was fast. 1 pad per panel or panel + 1/2 due to pad turning dirty quite quickly. Never saw the dust till I finished and saw it everywhere under halogen, especially in all the door jams. I thought this was dust free? Removal was very easy. Final gloss was on par with 85RD.



    Will redo some panels again using less product and see what happens. Maybe move the PC faster thru the panels?

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    1. used water like I always do with any polish. did not have Touch.



    2. 400 speed, LC white and orange. 2011 Honda Grey Metallic.

 

 
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