Re: Difference between pink soap and Wash `n wax?
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Originally Posted by
kestrel452
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So I am to assume that using 3D Wash N Wax to clean the car before applying a new coat of Collinite 845 will not cause any issues?
I wouldn`t try it. I`d want to have the cleanest surface possible. That`s just me. Are you planning on any kind of decontamination? Chemical, clay, or both?
If you want, PM me your address and I`ll send you enough Pink Soap to wash it. That way you can buy the Wash and Wax, and not have to buy the Pink.
Re: Difference between pink soap and Wash `n wax?
Noting that I just don`t use washes that (claim/appear/etc. to) contain "wax", I`d be awfully surprised if whatever those washes leave behind actually interfered with the bonding of 845. Or most any other conventional LSP. Many (most?) LSPs bond fine over glazes/etc., so I`d simply expect them to be OK over Wash & Wax products.
People LSP over Rinseless Washes that leave stuff behind, and that works OK, at least it does for me, but I don`t use Rinseless products that are in the "Wash & Wax" category either; stuff like IUDJ leaves plenty behind all by itself and regular ONR leaves stuff behind too.
Now somebody go experiment and prove me wrong (or not ;) ) so we know. Just pick a small (easy-to-fix) area and see if it works OK.
EDIT: Thinking about it, way back in the day I used washes that claimed to contain wax, sometimes you`d have to really shake `em up to make those blobs go away, and I never had any LSP-bonding issues.
Re: Difference between pink soap and Wash `n wax?
I have both pink and W&W. Typically I would use pink before applying any LSPs because of the "nothing left behind factor." However, I have on occasion applied LSPs after using w&w. I believe all of which have been carnauba so I`m not sure about 845 or any other sealant. Pink is just a better soap in my opinion. More suds, more lubricity, rinses better... I always use at least a QD after every wash anyways.
Re: Difference between pink soap and Wash `n wax?
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Originally Posted by
Accumulator
Noting that I just don`t use washes that (claim/appear/etc. to) contain "wax", I`d be awfully surprised if whatever those washes leave behind actually interfered with the bonding of 845. Or most any other conventional LSP. Many (most?) LSPs bond fine over glazes/etc., so I`d simply expect them to be OK over Wash & Wax products.
People LSP over Rinseless Washes that leave stuff behind, and that works OK, at least it does for me, but I don`t use Rinseless products that are in the "Wash & Wax" category either; stuff like IUDJ leaves plenty behind all by itself and regular ONR leaves stuff behind too.
Now somebody go experiment and prove me wrong (or not ;) ) so we know. Just pick a small (easy-to-fix) area and see if it works OK.
EDIT: Thinking about it, way back in the day I used washes that claimed to contain wax, sometimes you`d have to really shake `em up to make those blobs go away, and I never had any LSP-bonding issues.
Accumulator, you said you used Griot`s soap as a mixing agent with 3D Pink. I think I`m going to try your 3D Pink + Griot`s soap mix. I am guessing you use the standard "Super Concentrated Car Wash" of theirs. Do you have any idea how well their Wash and Wax soap compares? I`d like some relatively easy way of getting wax into the crevices and spaces I can`t, mostly for anti-corrosion purposes. :cool:
Re: Difference between pink soap and Wash `n wax?
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Originally Posted by
kestrel452
Accumulator, you said you used Griot`s soap as a mixing agent with 3D Pink. I think I`m going to try your 3D Pink + Griot`s soap mix. I am guessing you use the standard "Super Concentrated Car Wash" of theirs. Do you have any idea how well their Wash and Wax soap compares? I`d like some relatively easy way of getting wax into the crevices and spaces I can`t, mostly for anti-corrosion purposes. :cool:
Sorry, can`t help with their Wash & Wax soap, never used it (and don`t plan to ;) ). I haven`t reordered since they started calling their "regular" (?) one "Super Concentrated", but I`d *GUESS* it`s what I use. Somebody oughta ask GG whether it`s still the same concentration.
IMO the "getting wax into the crevices for anti-corrosion purposes" is wishful thinking that might impart a false sense of security. I cannot *imagine* it working in a functional way, though I am a huge fan of finding ways to clean those types of areas. (my `93 Audi has inaccessible/basically unfixable areas where that`s an ongoing issue and even spraying good Spray Waxes into those areas does nothing to help.) I just keep those areas clean as best I can and cross my fingers that the vehicle`s build quality is good enough for it to not rust out.