Fresh paint care

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So the car is just coming out of the bodyshop, so proper care to get that started off right, be clay, clean, seal and wax right?
 
No wax for awhile, it will keep the paint from outgassing and fully curing. There's a lot of threads here about this whole subject, just try a quick search.
 
I would just do washes for the next 60-90 days..did the body shop give you instructions how to care for new paint...you can use Meg's #5 or #7 polish on new paint for a little protection..but would not put a sealant or wax on till paint cures..or outgases..



do a search here for care of new paint...remember the new paint is sorta soft now till it cures..



I believe FK1 makes a product that can be used on fresh paint..but not sure which one it is..



look around here there is info on caring for fresh paint..



Al
 
Conventional waxes "clog" the pores of the fresh paint, preventing outgassing. Quite a few sealants can be applied to the fresh paint, but I don't see anyone encourage this (liability) - except Finish Kare.

Their 2180 sealant is fresh paint safe and highly recommended by them. You can use it with great care (fresh paint is soft) 24 after the car leaves the paint booth.
 
Hey guys....ponder this question for a bit. Many claim, as some have here, that you should not put anything over fresh paint because it doesn't allow for "outgassing" and that wax can clog the pores, etc.



Have you ever wondered why, if that be true, how come they put a clear coat over the pigmented paint? How is it that the pigmented paint can "outgas" through the clear coat when the clear coat is far more highly cross linked than a wax or polymer? If the pigmented paint can outgas through the clear coat then surely it can outgas through wax.



Also, what do body shops do shortly after the car is painted? Well they wetsand the crap out of it, buff it with abrasive chemicals and then glaze it.



Anthony
 
Yes, all true, but I've been told by a few paint reps that especially oil-heavy carnauba waxes can in fact hinder the outgassing process.
 
Anthony Orosco said:
Hey guys....ponder this question for a bit. Many claim, as some have here, that you should not put anything over fresh paint because it doesn't allow for "outgassing" and that wax can clog the pores, etc.



Have you ever wondered why, if that be true, how come they put a clear coat over the pigmented paint? How is it that the pigmented paint can "outgas" through the clear coat when the clear coat is far more highly cross linked than a wax or polymer? If the pigmented paint can outgas through the clear coat then surely it can outgas through wax.
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The paint manufacturers themselves are the ones who dictate this. If you don't want to believe it then feel free to wax away if your car ever gets repainted, but don't expect too much sympathy from most folks here if you have problems with it scratching too easily from there on. It'll be your choice.

Also, what do body shops do shortly after the car is painted? Well they wetsand the crap out of it, buff it with abrasive chemicals and then glaze it.
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Glaze is different from wax. There are a number of body-shop safe glazes on the market.
 
Anthony Orosco said:
...how come they put a clear coat over the pigmented paint? How is it that the pigmented paint can "outgas" through the clear coat when the clear coat is far more highly cross linked than a wax or polymer? If the pigmented paint can outgas through the clear coat then surely it can outgas through wax.....
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If you spray a non-compatible clear over a basecoat it won't outgas and/or cure correctly. One or both coats will fail.



That’s why they make bc/cc coatings as systems that are designed to work together. In a compatible system the base and top are specifically designed to be permeable to and outgas the same volatiles as they cure. Also, the base doesn’t need to cure in the same fashion as a topcoat because it’s not exposed to mechanical or chemical attack.



A wax or sealant is specifically formulated to block chemical transfer between the environment and the finish. Unfortunately they will also block chemical transfer from the finish to the environment if applied before the coating has cured.



Anthony Orosco said:
…Also, what do body shops do shortly after the car is painted? Well they wetsand the crap out of it, buff it with abrasive chemicals and then glaze it....
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Yes they do. And that has no effect on curing because it’s only mechanically abrading the top of the coating, which doesn’t interfere with the chemical process of the bulk film. Glazes intended for fresh re-spray paint are formulated to be permeable to paint volatiles.





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