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I saw someone ask about this on a BMW site. The dealership is trying to get him to have it applied to the tune of $750:huh::huh::huh:
I told the guy to keep is 750 bucks and once or twice a year have a pro detailer detail the car:D
Anyone use this or know anything about it?
Seems like its an aircraft sealant, not sure what that means when used on a car?
higher temp? longer lasting durability?
Cilajet Paint Sealant-"Immunity from almost Everything!
Its not uncommon for dealerships to push this bs on customers. I`ve known of dealerships charging $500 for a cost of Car Brite Paint Sealant. I use this stuff a lot and have for years, and while its the longest lasting sealant ice ever used, its 30 bucks a quart. It makes me sick to think that a scam like this is happening every day.
Yea I knew it was a scam..I hate that dealers prey on customers this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclean81
So you are getting this for 30 bucks a quart?
Yeah. It used to be a little cheaper but its still a good price. I put 1 coat on an old Ford truck I had just to see how long it would last. 8 months later it was still beading water. I finally got bored with it and stripped it and started over lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemerboy
did some research on cilajet. Find out that XXPONET makes cilajet. They have a product for the retail market.
10 oz. jar with "activator"
I smell Zaino... in a paste.
mahal, Welcome to Detail City, we`re happy to have you here with us. May I suggest you take a moment and stop in to the appropriate forum to introduce yourself and tell us a bit about you? As you are likely aware, often when a new member`s first post includes a URL or product name suspicions my rise. No accusations are being made here. I`m just thinking it would be nice to get to know you. Again, welcome to The City!Quote:
Originally Posted by mahal
Hey guys, just wanted to post a bit about Cilajet and what they are trying to do. Cilajet is a great product and the manufacture of the product is a very close friend of mine. The product from what I know is a "Dealership Only" product and not sold by any retailer at all. Furthermore, the detailer who said it is owned buy whoever is incorrect. Like I said the owner is someone I personally know very well. She is an amazing woman who has a great product out on the market being sold through the auto dealership channels.
Auto dealerships have for years now been selling insurance backed products to the consumer in a big way. Right or wrong, the Dealership Paint Sealant program is extremely successful for dealership throughout the country. Most new car auto dealerships offer a new car paint and interior protection package ranging in price from as low as $400.00 and up to $800. In some cases I have experienced new car dealerships offering vehicle protection packages well over $1,000.00
You can look at this as a negative or you can look at it as a positive! Just think for a minute on the business side of things! Dealerships have actually done us a great deal of helping educate the market about the added benefits of paint sealants. Therefore, making it and marketing it a lot easier for all of us to "UPSELL" our paint sealant programs. In fact, in my shop `Paint Sealant" is my number one up sell and I get very good money for each one I sell. And it`s 100% pure profit for us because we were going to wax the car anyway as part of our standard detail.... I`ve used Cilajet for years along with many other paint sealants and I can say that it is one great product that the owner can be very proud of. And if you ever get a chance to meet her you would know she is an amazing person to do business with.
MEL CRAIG
The Detailing Pros
What`s the difference between Cilajet and CG JetSeal 109 other than the fact Cilajet can only be purchased through the dealership "program"?
The body shop owner where I had my car repaired uses it on his Lear and all of the family cars. Hard to argue with someone who is in the business. He doesn`t offer it to the body shop customers and only does on special requests from friends.
Two very different companies and two very different products. And your right... the Cilajet is not available through the retail market place. CG has there Jet Seal 109 available a lot of places. Both are paint sealants...Quote:
Originally Posted by rwright
Good luck to you my friend...
MEL
Let me apologize in advance, I thought you were affiliated with CG and could offer a technical explanation. Does Cilajet offer cleaning abilities or is it a pure sealant? Is it best applied by machine or can it be applied by hand or machine? What about long term durability?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel Craig
Noting this is a nearly year old thread, I must say that one needs to take a dispassionate view of this product and practice. From the dealership standpoint they (paint/textile protection plans) are an obvious (to some) revenue source to be tapped when the profit margins on new car sales dwindle. Dealerships are expensive to operate and income must be generated somewhere. If someone is willing to pay for these services then the dealerships will gladly take their money. Most members of this fourm and others like it don`t see a value as we are willing to maintain our vehilces` exteriors and interiors on our own for far less cash outlay.
From the product standpoint, how "wonderful" the owner/manufacturer is (or isn`t) can only marginally add (or detract) from the value of their product (or service).
That said, since we can`t really discuss its merits or short comings, I`m wondering if it isn`t best to let a sleeping dog lie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel Craig
I have a customer with this who paid 1,000 dollars for it and it really unhappy with it. So am I ,because now he doesnt want me to do anything to his paint for fear of voiding the warranty .No Claybar , no polishing , no wax. He used to be a very good customer of mine and now he only wants a semi detail ,wash every few months instead of a full detail.
After only a couple months the car is completely swirled up and bird droppings have etched his paint .
Any kind of solvent wax is not recommended for top coat because it can destroy the cilajet, also including any spray wax.( according to the website)
It also needs re applying after 5 years FYI so its really not lifetime.
Sorry I had to give my opinion before you let the sleeping dogs lay! :D
On a positive note it really sheets water well!
Cilajet (and others offered "only" at dealerships) may be great stuff made by the best people in the world, but to sell it through dealership channels only - which by the way market this stuff in the most underhanded, inaccurate way possible - is enough to make me tell as many people as I possibly can to avoid it at all costs.
Aside from that, if it were all that great a product and didn`t need some sort of "gimmick" to move it, I would suspect it might be available for purchase to people other than stealerships.
Lying to customers who don`t know better and gouging them to the tune of hundreds of dollars (if not thousands later when it`s time for a repaint because they didn`t care for the paint like they should have based on the misrepresentation of this product) speaks volumes about dealerships, and in my opinion, whoever is pushing it via those channels.
Even with a brand new car, there`s (usually) more to it than slapping on an application of some sealant/wax and calling it a day.
I don`t know anything about this product so I can not comment on it but... I feel dealerships see an area that they can take advantage and they go all out.
A dealer local to me seals all the cars that come in and charge an extra $1000. I think that`s a ridiculous amount of money for any paint sealant.
So they`re basically tacking an extra $1000 on to the price of every car on their lot and FORCING every customer to pay?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket
There`s a dealer that would never get a dime of my business.
No matter how "Good" Cilajet is; the fact that it is only available at Dealerships gives is a negative connotation when most true professional details can`t get it. I understand and fully believe in the up sell but charging that kind of money for it seems like a underhand and deceitful practice. I don`t think I could do that with any Consensus.
It was a Chevy dealer- every car I looked at had it tacked on and I would say I looked at 3 complete rows of trucks and every Vette & Camaro on the lot. I looked at a few other models as well and they all had it added on as well. I would say all of the vehicles had it based on what I saw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny Lil Detlr
That dealership will not be getting my business either
Sorry to dig up an old thread but I noticed a local high volume shop has been handing out business cards all over town and apparently a few friends of friends thought he was me since his name is also Chad.
Anyway, I checked out his site and it appears he`s offering Cilajet application, so I don`t know how "Dealership Only" it really is. :inspector:
Just stumbled upon this thread searching for info....could help but notice the pending lawsuit too.....
scott32014 it seems as though you search for Cilajet threads. Your first post on both boards are your only posts. You wouldn`t happent to work for Cilajet would you? Just asking.
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Originally Posted by rzatch
He probably does :inspector:
I hope this is a "before " pic, cuz it really doesn`t look goodQuote:
Originally Posted by scott32014
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Originally Posted by rzatch
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Gentleman has 2 posts, both about crappajet :welcome:
Here is my experience with Cilajet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqVrhn3UZDY
I thought it was gonna be another "i love this stuff"
Boy I was wrong.
Sorry this had to happen. Hopefully someone here can advise you on how to straighten it out
Cila who? Shoulda went with Natty`s.
now it`s gonna need black hole ++++++Quote:
Originally Posted by Swanicyouth