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    Just a regular guy Todd@RUPES's Avatar
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    One of my biggest fears has been wiper scratching or hazing that occurs on windshields from the use of wiper blades grinding dirt and particulate into the surface. My wife’s vehicle was particularly bad and was to the point that driving at night was becoming difficult (for me. She had apparently adjusted to not being able to see, which no matter how hard she convinced me never let me feel safe about her driving.



    The windshield on my wife’s Hyundai Sonata was scratched in the wiper track area so bad that I could feel texture change with my fingernail.



    Even in incandescent lighting scratches and haze are clearly visible.







    Under 500w halogen lighting the damage to the windshield is even more visible (my wife claims to be able to see through this with no problem!).











    I remembered seeing on Lake Country’s website that they offered a glass polishing kit and found one for sale at properautocare.com. When the box arrived I opened it and read through the directions, which I didn’t find easy to understand. A quick call to Lake Country quickly cleared up any questions (as typical their customer service is outstanding!) I had and provided very clear directions on how to use the product.



    Given that I did not find the instructions helpful, I have merged them with my conversation and experience to provide a review and hopefully instructions so that anybody with basic rotary experience can replicate my excellent experience with this kit.



    Manufacturer’s Claims (from Lake Country’s website)



    GPS PRO

    Glass Polishing System

    •Polish and restore automotive glass and other glass surfaces

    •Machine powered system restores clarity by removing wiper tracks, light scratches

    and other minor defects

    •For use on: Windshields and Automotive Glass; most other glass surfaces

    •For use with rotary buffers or D.A. machines

    •Contains materials to polish and seal approximately 7,200 square inches



    NOTE: The kit from Lake Country contains an adapter for use on a Porter Cable. CMA offers two separate kits (on for DA’s or one for Rotaries). Given that glass is often much harder then paint, I elected to select a rotary kit.



    Contained in the kit

    - 4 oz of glass polish (cernium oxide)

    - Rain x

    - 2 felt cutting disks (used for removing deeper damage and heavy scratches

    - 2 yellow foam pads (used for removing light marring, calcium deposits, and polishing the glass to high gloss, these pads are significantly different then the yellow foam used on paint)

    - 3.5 inch backing plate

    - terry cloth applicator







    Additional products needed

    - Polishing machine (either a rotary or orbital PC style)

    - Isopropyl Alcohol

    - Water

    - Assorted microfiber towels







    To begin….

    Similar to removing swirl marks and damage from the paint, removing scratches and wiper damage from the glass requires ‘re-leveling’ the surface.



    1) Thoroughly clean the glass surface using alcohol (or window cleaner) and remove all dirt, bug splatter, film, and chemicals. Contaminated glass may benefit from a couple minutes with a clay bar. We do not want a particulate remaining on the paint as it can become trapped between the pad and glass and cause more scratching.



    2) Tape plastic trim and rubber seals around the perimeter of the glass.







    3) Apply supplied backing plate to the rotary (or Porter Cable).







    The defects on my wife’s glass could be felt my finger nail, they where deep and would require heavy cutting. I elected to start with the more aggressive, thin felt pad. Hook and loop backing means you simply press it against the backing plate (felt side up) to attach it to the machine.







    4) Lightly mist the area to be polished with water (one light spray) and draw two thin beads of product on the glass (using the supplied glass polish).







    5) Spread the polish over the working section.





    Now we are ready to begin polishing the glass.



    To polish the glass…



    NOTES: Modern automotive windshields contain a thin plastic sheet between two layers of glass (interior and exterior). The polishing process itself will transfer heat to the glass. If the windshield becomes to hot the plastic sheeting can warp leading to distortion. Removing defects from glass requires a lot of pressure which can build heat in a hurry. Stop to check the surface temperature of the paint occasionally by placing your hand on the surface. If it is hot to the touch, mist the area with water to cool it, before continuing.



    6) Work the polish with slow arm speed and significant pressure (roughly 20lbs of down force). On a rotary polisher you will set the RPM between 1000-1500 rpm, on a Porter Cable aim for about 4000 OPM. Work a small section, roughly 1.5’ x 1.5’. Keep constant pressure and polish over the section until it begins to flash off.



    7) inspect the surface, if more polishing is required (scratching still visible), mist the area with water and continue polishing.







    NOTE: Water is used for several reasons when polishing glass. One is to remove the heat buildup and the second is to work the polish longer. Cerium Oxide is a very hard abrasive and will often can take several minutes to break down. Too much water on the surface while polishing can greatly increase the time needed to remove the defects as well as cause splatter. Try to keep the consistency as thick as possible for maximum action, only adding water when necessary.



    8) Once all the defects have been removed, mist the area lightly and polish with no pressure to fully break down the abrasives.







    Remove the exhausted residue from the section before moving on to the next section. It may have caked on the surface. Window cleaner or IPA will quickly remove the residue. Be patience as it may take several minutes per section to fully remove the damage.



    9) Repeat steps over areas needing to be corrected. I highly recommend cleaning the pad after each section. As the pad cakes with polish residue it becomes less efficient and takes more time to polish each section. Simply mist the pad with water and turn the machine on. Use a microfiber towel and press it against the rotating pad until clean.



    10) With the deeper defects removed it is time to refine the surface by switching pads. The yellow pad supplied in the kit is different the yellow pad that Lake Country makes for paint use. It is very stiff and has no pours. Give the pad a light spray of water to prime it.







    11) Since the goal is the refinement of the surface after compounding we can work a larger section (roughly ¼ the windshield) with less pressure. Draw two thin beads on the glass.







    12) Work the polish with low rpm (1000) and medium pressure (10 lbs) in overlapping cross hatch pattern until the polish is nearly opaque and has flashed.





    13) Lightly mist the section with water and continue







    14) Work the polish until fully broken down in this manor. It should leave a barely visible film on the glass surface.







    15) Repeat for all sections



    NOTE: The yellow polishing pad CAN be used for deeper damage removal by using more pressure and slower arm speed, working smaller sections. It will not remove the damage as quickly however.



    16) After polishing the entire windshield spray with glass cleaner or alcohol to remove any stubborn residue.



    Result pictures.



    50/50 Shot of the deep scratches and their removal.





    Before pictures.









    After pictures.





















    Quick Review:



    Pro’s: Effectively removes deep damage from glass, restoring a crystal like clarity to the windshield. Greatly improves vision.



    Con’s: Glass polishing requires down force and a lot of it. It can be exhausting after a while. Also the supplied instructions are not the greatest.



    Conclusion: I love this kit. Instead of products that claim to use wax that doesn’t exist or exist for 14 months in the desert, these products simply do what they say. There is a slightly learning curve although anybody with rotary experience will catch on fairly quickly. In the end it is a must have kit.

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    Great review as always. Thanks for taking the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfisti
    Great review as always. Thanks for taking the time.


    Thank you Alfisti!

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    Nice Review! Looks like a product worth experimenting with.

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    I`ve recently bought and used the LC glass polishing pad Autogeek sells.







    Lake Country 5.5 Inch Glass Polishing Pad



    It seems to have abrasives embedded in the firm foam, as I can see it sparkling in the sun. Probably cerium oxide I suspect.



    I`ve used it with 1Z Glass Polish to remove bad mineral stains/etching from water spots. It worked so well and so fast I just love it! Before that, it was often difficult to remove them using normal polishes and pads, with varying degrees of success.







    1Z Einszett Glass Polish



    This worked 100% of the time. I can imagine the *full kit* would work brilliantly.

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    What is it with those Sonata windshields? I have the same problem: http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...-business.html . I ordered the LC cutting pads, polishing pad, and the Diamondite Glass Resurfacing Creme from AG...hopefully I`ll be able to get similar results.

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    Great review and write up Todd...
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    How about pits in your windshield? Can this product help?
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    Hmm... I might have to try this. Nissan OEM glass really sucks.



    Question, can this glass polishing method eliminate or reduce "pitting" as well as scratches?

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    AG says no to pits...I think this question is kind of like asking if a compound that takes swirls/scratches out of your paint will fix paint chips as well...the stone chips in a windshield are waaay deeper than the wiper tracks removed by Todd in this thread.

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    I would love to hear some feedback over time how well water beads now (with out any rain repellent products being used). I can only assume having a scratch free glass surface that water will now just hydroplane across and away (assuming the glass is clean).
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    thanks Todd for the sweet review....it seems pretty effective

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    That worked very well!

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    DG NuGlass is also an excellent product. I`d like to get some of those glass specific LC pads but for now I`m using a Megs yellow polishing pad and the results are top notch.
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    Excellent as always! Bookmarked.

 

 
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