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    Re: Porsche, Volkswagen, et. al.

    Quote Originally Posted by SYMAWD View Post
    A portion is subsidized by the manufacturer.
    I still put up a barrier to these fancy digs because I know I`m paying for it. Now and later.

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    Yeah, I too still feel I`m footing the bill, if only in parts costs or something.

    But OK, whatever it takes to keep `em in business, gotta compete with Lexus I suppose. Though if my Tech ever leaves that dealership then so does all my business.

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    In Jersey on Rt. 1 in Edison, we got this same building type just with a sloping / arching kind of roof.
    It`s been built 3 or 4 years ago - It was prob one of the first ones. Bell Audi ...er or Audi Edison now??
    I drive by it twice everyday commuting to work so I`ll have to look at the logo next time by. Yes, especially at night you see all the cars in the building show room floor facing the street at an angle with their LED`s on display. It`s a cool tactic IMO.

    I`ve been there checking out rides and it`s a very nice facility. Very different from any other Dealer setting. However, I agree you will pay for it one way or another.
    The cars have become expensive enough, that should cover it

    Anyway, I read about Piech`s out while looking at Formula 1 news articles - saying his outing may finally open the door for Audi/VW to enter F1.

    I`ve also read rumors about return of the Auto Union name to come back - I say bring back Duesenberg!

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    Re: Porsche, Volkswagen, et. al.

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    In Jersey on Rt. 1 in Edison, we got this same building type just with a sloping / arching kind of roof.
    It`s been built 3 or 4 years ago - It was prob one of the first ones. Bell Audi ...er or Audi Edison now??
    I drive by it twice everyday commuting to work so I`ll have to look at the logo next time by. Yes, especially at night you see all the cars in the building show room floor facing the street at an angle with their LED`s on display. It`s a cool tactic IMO.

    I`ve been there checking out rides and it`s a very nice facility. Very different from any other Dealer setting. However, I agree you will pay for it one way or another.
    The cars have become expensive enough, that should cover it

    Anyway, I read about Piech`s out while looking at Formula 1 news articles - saying his outing may finally open the door for Audi/VW to enter F1.

    I`ve also read rumors about return of the Auto Union name to come back - I say bring back Duesenberg!
    They are still Bell Audi, but I want to say that is still considered an "old" style building as they were still all glass fronts with the sloping roof.

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    They are still Bell Audi, but I want to say that is still considered an "old" style building as they were still all glass fronts with the sloping roof.
    Ok, so then maybe they will get the `upgrade` to eventually match the new look? On the inside it looks practically the same as in your photos.

    On a separate thought, I can`t wait to see what the new A(S)4 / A(S)5 look like when they come out.

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    Ok, so then maybe they will get the `upgrade` to eventually match the new look? On the inside it looks practically the same as in your photos.

    On a separate thought, I can`t wait to see what the new A(S)4 / A(S)5 look like when they come out.
    I don`t know for sure. It`s possible that they have multiple new building designs. For example, VW has 3.

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    Re: Porsche, Volkswagen, et. al.

    Some background on the story here with link:

    Piech resigns as VW chairman after failing to oust CEO


    FRANKFURT -- Ferdinand Piech, a towering figure at Volkswagen for more than two decades, resigned as chairman of the company on Saturday after losing a showdown with Chief Executive Martin Winterkorn.

    Piech, the 78-year-old grandson of the inventor of the Volkswagen Beetle, had previously succeeded in ousting other executives who crossed him, including his hand-picked successor as Volkswagen CEO, Bernd Pischetsrieder.

    But this time, he was unexpectedly isolated in a five-to-one vote of Volkswagen`s steering committee last week as labor representatives, the state of Lower Saxony and even his own cousin Wolfgang Porsche stood firmly behind Winterkorn.

    "The members of the steering committee came to a consensus that, in the light of the past weeks, the mutual trust necessary for successful cooperation was no longer there," the six-member panel said in a statement after another meeting on Saturday.

    "Against this background, Professor Doctor Ferdinand K. Piech resigned from his office as chairman as well as all his supervisory board mandates within the Volkswagen group with immediate effect," the statement said.

    "The uncertainty had to be ended today," said Deputy Chairman Berthold Huber, the senior trade unionist who will take over until a new chairman is elected. "The steering committee was and is conscious of its responsibility to Volkswagen and its many thousand staff."

    Piech’s term as chairman of VW’s supervisory board was due to expire in April 2017.


    Two sources with knowledge of the matter said Piech had resigned without forcing a vote of the committee at its second crisis gathering in 10 days. Piech`s second wife, Ursula, a former nanny who joined the supervisory board in 2012, also resigned.

    "Piech`s departure represents a seismic shift in Volkswagen`s power structure, and could foretell drastic changes in how one of the world`s largest automakers operates," wrote Karl Brauer, senior analyst at analysis firm Kelley Blue Book.

    "VW has kept pace with General Motors and Toyota`s growth in recent years, making it a very tight three-way race for the title of largest global automaker, but VW`s struggles in markets like the U.S. and Brazil, along with lower profit margins versus GM and Toyota, shows there`s still much work to be done."

    Volkswagen`s biggest shareholder, Porsche SE, backed the carmaker`s management after Piech`s resignation.

    "We have complete faith in the management of Volkswagen and regret the developments of recent days," Porsche SE Chairman Wolfgang Porsche said in a statement.

    He added that Porsche SE, which controls 51 percent of Volkswagen`s common stock, would continue to live up to its responsibility as a major shareholder of the carmaker.


    The leadership crisis burst into the open this month when the news weekly Der Spiegel quoted Piech, the patriarch of the family that owns 51 percent of voting rights in VW, as saying he had "distanced" himself from CEO Winterkorn.

    The comment came at a time when VW is slashing costs and revamping operations to boost profitability. It has struggled in the United States and posted lower profits at its core auto division.

    The supervjsory board’s leadership committee backed Winterkorn on April 17, saying he’s the “best possible” head of the company.

    Winterkorn, 67, who has led Volkswagen to record profits and put it within grasp of overtaking Toyota Motor Corp. as the world’s biggest carmaker, appeared at a meeting of the steering committee in Piech’s hometown of Salzburg, Austria, on April 16 to fight for his job.

    The six-member body proposed extending Winterkorn’s contract beyond 2016.

    The group usually prepares the meetings of VW`s 20-person supervisory board, which is comprised of voting-shareholder and labor representatives and has the power to hire and fire executives, in addition to making other major corporate decisions.


    A decision on Winterkorn’s term as CEO isn’t likely before early 2016. In Germany, top executives’ contracts are generally only extended in their final year.



    The full board is scheduled to convene in a regular session the day before Volkswagen’s annual shareholders meeting on May 5. Any ruling on Winterkorn’s term isn’t likely before early 2016. In Germany, top executives’ contracts are generally only extended in their final year.

    But last week`s agreement to back Winterkorn included a commitment to discuss an extension.

    Piech`s departure increases the chances of Winterkorn succeeding him as chairman -- something that Piech wanted to prevent at all costs, Volkswagen insiders believe. That would leave the way open for Porsche CEO and VW management board member Matthias Mueller, already seen as a favorite to succeed Winterkorn, to take over.

    "What changes will we see to fill the void left by Piech? Do we have Winterkorn stepping up to chairman and Matthias Mueller as CEO? That could happen," said analyst Stuart Pearson of Exane BNP Paribas.

    But Piech`s influence may still make itself felt through the 51-percent voting rights the Piech-Porsche clan owns in Volkswagen, now represented on the supervisory board by Wolfgang Porsche, if family ties withstand the recent turmoil.

    While he may have failed to unseat the CEO, Piech`s departure is unlikely to end the increased scrutiny the public duel has drawn to the group`s strategic shortcomings.

    Volkswagen`s management may still have to address the criticisms Piech raised, which include the failure to engineer a low-cost car.

    When Piech became CEO of VW in 1993, the company was losing money, prompting him to cut pay and working hours at German plants and streamline production

    During his nine-year tenure, he turned a loss equivalent to 1 billion euros ($1.09 billion) into a 2.6 billion euro profit while spearheading VW`s expansion to a 12-brand holding group that makes everything from fuel-efficient city cars to 40-ton trucks.

    Exane BNP Paribas` Pearson said Piech`s abrupt resignation would come as a shock to investors despite the recent drama.

    "Those seeing the glass half full may view this as an opportunity to improve corporate governance at VW," he said. "However, first VW will need to demonstrate that its operating performance is on track and not the cause of Piech and Winterkorn`s discord."

    In addition to Piech, the leadership committee has been made up of Stephan Weil, prime minister of the German state of Lower Saxony; works council chief Bernd Osterloh and his deputy, Stephan Wolf; Huber, representing the IG Metall union; and Wolfgang Porsche, a representative of the other shareholder family.


    A survey by the advisory firm Evercore ISI shortly after the crisis broke out found that 65 percent of institutional investors would welcome a change of CEO and 80 percent were in favor of a new chairman.

    "VW cannot be managed with such ongoing uncertainty surrounding management succession," Evercore automotive analyst Arnd Ellinghorst wrote in a note on Friday.

    "In the interest of shareholders, workers and customers, it might be best to accelerate change now, rather than muddling through for a couple of years and fighting similar succession battles over and over again at a later stage."

    Tensions between Piech and Winterkorn appeared to have eased a week ago when senior supervisory board members backed the CEO, leaving Piech the odd man out and forcing him to agree to a joint statement supporting Winterkorn.

    But sources said at the time he would have faced calls for his own resignation had he not backed the CEO, and a source close to VW said on Friday that the Piech and Porsche families had held another meeting this week, indicating that there are still ongoing differences.

    Weil, the premier of Lower Saxony, which owns 20 percent of VW, said Piech`s resignation was necessary to create clarity about the carmaker`s leadership.

    Said Weil: "I regret the resignation of Ferdinand Piech, but it was unavoidable in the end."

 

 
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