New Rupes System

[tedj101]

I understand that Rupes has a new system out called UHC. It consists of a new pad (gray) and a single compound/polish. It has been described elsewhere as revolutionary. Oddly, I don`t see it mentioned on Autopia. Given that Todd Helm now works for Rupes, I would have thought Autopia would be first on the list with a new product. Am I missing something?

[Setec Astronomy]

Given that Todd Helm now works for Rupes, I would have thought Autopia would be first on the list with a new product. Am I missing something?

I think you answered your own question, Todd works for Rupes now, not Autopia-Car Care. If you`re asking why Autogeek has it and ACC doesn`t, well, PBMG works in mysterious ways, and some products debut here, and some there.

The Rupes UHS System - Just a few comments after using it all day... - Auto Geek Online Auto Detailing Forum

Rupes UHS Easy Gloss System

[Trouble]

Do you really believe a magic compound or pad has been developed?

[mnehls86]

I know Mike Lambert used it on at least one thread and he said he likes it. Maybe hit him up for more details. I know I look forward to trying out the UHS system.

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[mnehls86]

If you`re asking why Autogeek has it and ACC doesn`t, well, PBMG works in mysterious ways, and some products debut here, and some there.

Hopefully they release it here soon. Maybe even a couple giveaways for reviews?

[AndrewBigA]

the grey pad is very stiff. ive used it a little bit with the polish & i dont like the stiff pad at all. good for large flat surfaces but for tight and small areas to polish you will need smaller pads. the Rupes grey pad doesnt have the same flexability like say a Buff and Shine foam pad. i will keep trying till i get used to it but stiff pads are not for me. also, guys are one stepping with this pad, that will change from car to car obviously. you can use the grey pad for heavy work & then go back for final polishing with a softer foam pad.

[Junebug]

Well, I remember at least 2 other companies trying something simular - and they later let it die on the vine in favor of a more traditional approach. The daily drivers I do can get one stepped easy enough with MF and D300 or M101 if its bad. But, I don`t see how if (big IF) you`re going all out show car detail - that 1 pad/polish can do that. I remember thinking Todd was a little crazy when I`d read his click & brag`s years ago. He would do 2, 3 sometimes 4 steps to get that extra 3% that only he could see out of a paint job. That detailing ya`ll, I`m just a fancy car washer that can buff paint to look good. It`s cold and nasty out, business is just my kids cars and I got plenty of time to see this thing unfold.

[AndrewBigA]

Well, I remember at least 2 other companies trying something simular - and they later let it die on the vine in favor of a more traditional approach. The daily drivers I do can get one stepped easy enough with MF and D300 or M101 if its bad. But, I don`t see how if (big IF) you`re going all out show car detail - that 1 pad/polish can do that. I remember thinking Todd was a little crazy when I`d read his click & brag`s years ago. He would do 2, 3 sometimes 4 steps to get that extra 3% that only he could see out of a paint job. That detailing ya`ll, I`m just a fancy car washer that can buff paint to look good. It`s cold and nasty out, business is just my kids cars and I got plenty of time to see this thing unfold.

you are wrong. 1 pad and 1 polish can get the job done. detailers do whats comfortable for them. for me i would feel safe with a second step after using this Rupes system. this Rupes polish is not gritty. the system must rely on the stiff pad for scratch & swirl removal. ask Paul Daulton how he is doing what he does every day, he will tell you practice makes perfect. some people will not have the patience to adjust to this pad (me) lol.

[Ronkh]

the grey pad is very stiff. ive used it a little bit with the polish & i dont like the stiff pad at all. good for large flat surfaces but for tight and small areas to polish you will need smaller pads. the Rupes grey pad doesnt have the same flexability like say a Buff and Shine foam pad. i will keep trying till i get used to it but stiff pads are not for me. also, guys are one stepping with this pad, that will change from car to car obviously. you can use the grey pad for heavy work & then go back for final polishing with a softer foam pad.

That means it`s a no go for me

[Todd@RUPES]

I would assume (always dangerous) that the reason Autopia doesn’t have UHS is because PBMG sold out of the system with in minutes of bringing their first order in.

The pad is necessary to the performance of the system. The face of the pad becomes very soft, but the thickness remains firm, allowing for the pad to optimally transfer the orbital action to the paint without using heavy amounts of pressure (a common theme in all of our pads, but even more so with UHS). I find this pad very easy to navigate into small areas. Even if you loose rotation, the pad is so effective at transferring movement that it will still cut like a banshee.

The UHS Compound uses a series of unique aluminum oxide polishing grains and a completely new lubrication system that is designed to work with (tuned for) the unique foam structure of the pad.

While there is obviously no magic compound and solution, there is something to be said for having an engineered system where all variables have been accounted for. The way the pad moves, the way the compound flows through the pad during the 60-100 hz vibration that large stroke tools produce, the way the pad transfers movement, etc…

For example, if you have ever felt our blue foam, you would immediately be shocked by the finish it leaves when used with our blue compound. I have seen videos that show the abrasives flowing through the first 1-2 mm of the foam, like a game of plinko, insuring that fresh abrasive grains are being broke down uniformly.

To remove P1500 grit scratches with BigFoot, you can do all sorts of chemical matching, pad changing, mods, pressure etc OR you can simply grab our blue pad, blue compound and get the same results with a better finish. Its not because of magic foams or compounds, but rather because the products were engineered to work with the large stroke of the RUPES system.

[Junebug]

Hey Andrew - did you skip this part of my post? "The daily drivers I do can get one stepped easy enough with MF and D300 or M101 if its bad. "
So, yes I agree you can do a detail with 1 pad, 1 polish, I know- do it all the time. The point I was trying to make is that IF - IF, you are going for the max, then you
would need to do a few more steps and that would involve at least 1 final finishing polish. Unless you read Todd`s article about how to finish out with M105! But I think
that did involve switching pads. I don`t remember and don`t bother anymore since 101 works better and dusts a lot less.

But since I refuse to pay $$ for the whole Rupes regimen, this is just a sit back and read the reviews exercise for me.

[RaysWay]

I would assume (always dangerous) that the reason Autopia doesn’t have UHS is because PBMG sold out of the system with in minutes of bringing their first order in.

Correct. I walk by the RUPES product aisle everyday and under the "UHS System" sign there`s a gaping hole. It doesn`t make sense to add it to the site until we can actually ship it out with the same speed and efficiency we`re known for. I`ve got a growing list of people I`m going to contact as soon as we get some in.

[AndrewBigA]

The pad is necessary to the performance of the system. The face of the pad becomes very soft, but the thickness remains firm,

*The pad is necessary to the performance of the system. The face of the pad does NOT become soft but remains STIFF like CARDBOARD.

the only time the pad gets soft is when you run cold water on it. i know because thats what i heard through the detailing grapevine but...NOT 100% true. sure the pad is soft, till you spin it out to remove excess water, then the pad is stiff/dry again. move onto apply some polish to get back on the car & back at square one.

i loved to follow your work when you were Todd Helme...bring him back to the detailing world please. i still love ya buddy but i dont like the grey pad. im 100% positive, everyone will agree with me after using the pad. STIFF like CARDBOARD all of the time.

[RaskyR1]

*The pad is necessary to the performance of the system. The face of the pad does NOT become soft but remains STIFF like CARDBOARD.

the only time the pad gets soft is when you run cold water on it. i know because thats what i heard through the detailing grapevine but...NOT 100% true. sure the pad is soft, till you spin it out to remove excess water, then the pad is stiff/dry again. move onto apply some polish to get back on the car & back at square one.

i loved to follow your work when you were Todd Helme...bring him back to the detailing world please. i still love ya buddy but i dont like the grey pad. im 100% positive, everyone will agree with me after using the pad. STIFF like CARDBOARD all of the time.

I actually find the pad softens up after a few panels, whether it`s from increase in pad temps, polish saturation, or both, I can`t say for sure, but it`s definitely softer...."squishy" was a term another user used to describe it.

I also do not care for the feel of the grey pad and on my test panel I was getting very similar cut with another foam pad, which I feel is more user friendly.

[mx5gary]

Correct. I walk by the RUPES product aisle everyday and under the "UHS System" sign there`s a gaping hole. It doesn`t make sense to add it to the site until we can actually ship it out with the same speed and efficiency we`re known for. I`ve got a growing list of people I`m going to contact as soon as we get some in.

Now that makes sense. Been waiting over a month now for AG to ship my order.