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    Polisher question with short suspense

    Background: I bought a GG6 and 3 inch DA when I first started detailing (about 2 years ago, but only do this occasionally due to work) and have recently discovered that on hard clear coats, they lack the ability to fully correct. I’m looking to upgrade to a 15mm but have a few questions.

    I’ve already ruled out the Rupes due to the steep learning curve, or so I’ve read.

    Question: Should I wait for the new Flex or get the BOSS G15? As far as the 3” goes, should I convert the GG6 to a 3” backing plate and only use that for correcting smaller areas or buy the Rupes mini?
    The short suspense is due to Autogeek have 15% off of the Griot’s polisher kit. Based on you guy’s recommendations coupled with my own I will make a decision tonight and order.

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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    Steep learning curve? only polishers I`d worry about a steep learning curve with are rotaries. I think you`ll find a Rupes or Griots long throw DA to be exactly what you`re looking for. If you go with something like a flex 3401 there is a slight learning curve due to its forced rotation

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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    I`ve read in forums where people pose the question as to buy a Flex or Rupes and, again from what I`ve read, there seems to be a learning curve as to pressure and technique with the Rupes.

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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    Keep in mind that I polish once, maybe twice a year, so I`m sure there is going to be a leaning curve regardless of which polisher I go with, however, no one seems to bring it up with any other polisher

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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    [Insufferably pedantic note- "Steep Learning Curves" are *good* because they mean "lots of learning over little time". Apologies for being a jerk but this is a pet peeve of mine ]

    Anyhoo...

    Short version- if it were my money I`d put a 3" plate on the GG6 and buy the Boss15. NO question about it.

    Longer version-

    The GG 3" electric seldom satisfies people but their 3" pneumatic works OK (it`s what I`ve been using for spot-correction).

    The GG6" will do the job, and faster than some other polishers by a long shot, but it does take a while. It works fine with a 3-4" pad.

    I didn`t spend my $ for the Rupes mini, but my wife did get me one for Christmas so sure...if you don`t mind the expense it oughta be great IMO (even though I haven`t tried mine yet). But it`s not my choice recommendation in this case since you already have the GG6.

    The GG Boss15 would be a great upgrade, again, if you don`t mind the expense (and I haven`t tried one of those either but people I respect love it).

    I have/use/like the Flex 3401 but don`t think it`s a good idea as a *lot* of people don`t like it.

    I would absolutely dissuade anybody from buying a rotary. Period. And I have two of `em and first started with one back in the `70s so IMO I know what I`m talking about. I never had issues with burning paint or anything like that, but it has a *shallow* learning curve with regards to leaving holograms and you`ll end up going back over with a RO/DA anyhow. And sometimes fixing holograms is incredibly difficult even though they`re "really shallow", BTDT for hours on end.

    So I`d buy the Boss15. I might even do that myself despite having too many polishers already.

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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    I don`t know what polishes you are using but perhaps it may benefit you to move onto the boss creams and boss pads. Possibly even consider the 5.5" pads. Also Griot`s introduced their same boss pads in 3". I am not sure if you are referring to the 3" Griot`s polisher.

    There is also no steep learning curve going to a long throw. It`s a slight adjustment but nothing overly complicated.
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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    Thanks for your insight.

    I`m not sure if I confused anyone but there is absolutely no way I`m going to get a rotary. I was speaking about the Flex XFE-15.

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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    WashRinseRepeat- Ah, OK...thanks for schooling me as I don`t know from Flex`s current offerings and thus I *was* confused

    Eh, I always say how I hardly ever do correction, but I still reach for the Flex 3401 enough (instead of the GG6, which sure *can* cut with the right stuff; I use M101) that I think you`d be glad you got the Boss15 in the long run. IMO you`d forget about the expense after a while but you`d never get over how much more you like it.

    Why not recommend that new Flex? Because enough people I respect like the Boss15 and GG is a good company to do business with, especially when something goes haywire.

    OK, enough out of me, I`d better get off this thread before I go on another rant Re Steep/shallow Learning Curves.

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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    Short version- if it were my money I`d put a 3" plate on the GG6 and buy the Boss15. NO question about it.
    Ditto. I think this combination will handle 85% of situations you`ll run into.
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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    I vote for the Boss 15.
    Took me about 1 min. to get used to the difference in power and cut ability. Sweeeet machine, best $$ I ever spent !
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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    Your current polishers should be up to snuff for anything

    I agree on getting the Griot Boss compound/polish/seal lineup
    add some Lake Country thinpro pads...or maybe do same but convert GG6 to 3in and upgrade to a G15
    could always buy a 1in BP for the GG3 if that`s also what ya have

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    Polisher question with short suspense

    I vote for the C237 eBay 15mm DA polisher. You can get it for like $46 delivered to your door from Beijing. If you don`t like it, it includes easy instructions on how to turn it into a ceiling fan or use it to cut your hair.

    But seriously, go with Rupes. They invented this style of machine. There is no steep learning curve.


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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    Quote Originally Posted by Mary B View Post
    I vote for the Boss 15.
    Took me about 1 min. to get used to the difference in power and cut ability. Sweeeet machine, best $$ I ever spent !
    Admittedly I do not have a Rupes machine and suspect I`d love one were I too own it. That said and seconding Mary`s post, I too really like my Boss 15. It fits my hand well has the ability to handle marginal correction with ease and even tougher situations with the right pads, their correction cremes and the proper technique. I think there is good reason to buy this machine as a kit as the products do work well together. I`d buy this machine again.
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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    Thanks, to everyone who replied.

    After some consideration, your responses and a few PM`s, I`m going to pick up the G15 and convert my now 6" into a 3".

    To those of you who suggested I switch to the BOSS pads, never really thought of that, so thank you. However with this limited time where polishers are discounted as well, I don`t what to pass it up just in case that doesn`t solve the issue.

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    Re: Polisher question with short suspense

    Mike Phillips ALWAYS points to Rupes as a system, beyond just referring to the color coded pads and polishes. Mike`s referring to how you`ll need the Rupes system, meaning other Rupes machines, to correct a whole car. If I were you, I would go for the Flex since it has a smaller rotation and can do more of any car than any Rupes can, except the Mini. The forced rotation makes the Flex a winner in my book.

 

 
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