Paste wax - Blackfire Midnight Sun vs Pinnacle Souveran

[pgp]

Which do you like and why. What are the benefits of each ? I would like some opinions of these two. I think from what I see they are very similar. I did get some during the recent sales. (they had a offer I could not resist) Thanks

[512detail]

I`ve only used MS once (wet ice over fire`d my roof last month) and liked it. It really intensified my flake.




I`ve heard souveran paste is awesome but does not last very long.
Longevity is irrelrvant with me for paste waxes personally. I use their souveran spray wax and it looks amazing. It`s my favorite free sample to add.

[Swanicyouth]

Really, they are both great looking products. Ease of use is a extremely high with either. Souveran smells better.

I dunno. I wouldn`t use either on a daily driver in the winter. Really, there is no wrong choices here. I would use BF MS over BF AFPP (BFWD).

IIR, the BF stuff just beads and sheets water better. So, it depends on the car you are driving (does it see rain?).

However, people say the longevity of Souveran sux. But, on a garage queen I found it better than Swissvax BOS or Bouncer`s CTR. Actually, it was pretty acceptable.

So, in conclusion, I would say if the car is a total garage queen - go with Pinnacle. If it sits outside and sees some rain - go with BF.

These are two of the best beauty waxes out there at any price - so there is really no wrong choice.

[GearHead_1]

Really, they are both great looking products. Ease of use is a extremely high with either. Souveran smells better.

I dunno. I wouldn`t use either on a daily driver in the winter. Really, there is no wrong choices here. I would use BF MS over BF AFPP (BFWD).

IIR, the BF stuff just beads and sheets water better. So, it depends on the car you are driving (does it see rain?).

However, people say the longevity of Souveran sux. But, on a garage queen I found it better than Swissvax BOS or Bouncer`s CTR. Actually, it was pretty acceptable.

So, in conclusion, I would say if the car is a total garage queen - go with Pinnacle. If it sits outside and sees some rain - go with BF.

Couldn`t really have said it any better, I pretty much agree with what has been said here. Pinnacle Souvran has held a place in my heart, on my shelf and on my cars from the very first time I used it. I really can`t say any carnauba by itself looks better to my eye. Midnight Sun is right there with it. Perhaps my expectations are low because I don`t use a carnauba wax expecting incredible durability. With that thought in mind I don`t find Souveran to be as bad as many people claim. I believe that if you`re going to use a carnauba wax without synthetic components mixed in you should plan on repeating the process no longer than every couple of months, perhaps every 3 or4 washes. It provides no less durability than I expect.

[pgp]

Thanks, The car sees everything sad to day. I wax often in the summer. I have BFAFPP on there now.

[rlmccarty2000]

Pinnacle on dark cars looks fantastic. I find it a little easier to apply and remove over BFMS. Neither one really lasts a long time, but I would go with Souveran. Really can`t go wrong with either.

[rlmccarty2000]

The Geekers site has the whole BF fire over ice set for $49.99 right now. Hard to beat that.

[GearHead_1]

The Geekers site has the whole BF fire over ice set for $49.99 right now. Hard to beat that.

That of course means Autopia Car-Care does also.

[Pats300zx]

I feel you really can`t beat the carnuaba look of Pinnacle Souveran on blacks and reds.

[pgp]

If the weather cooperates later this week I will put a coat of BF Midnight Sun on it. The Souveran is what I just ordered and not here yet. The color is Ford Ruby Red.

[Van185]

I`ve used Midnight Sun alo and really like the look and it last well. Pinnacle is also nice. I guess it`s a matter of opinion but I like Blackfire better I guess because I got it on sale and it was cheaper. Both are great products.

[pgp]

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