Coatings vs. Standard LSP`S discussion

[Ronkh]

Exactly! OC was the same way, I was on here before and was talking about losing its beading ability, a few mentioned an APC or dawn wash, but that never solved the issue.

I`m curious how long your waxes last over the PBL coating?

I dunno really.

What I do think is a major difference is the
quartz coatings are supposed to have nothing topping it except a "rejuvenator or coating booster" (reload type thing), where as the pbl coating is "ceramic" type coating (i`m guessing here) and these you can top,,,,,

as I said, I`m guessing here. But one thing I have noticed is that quartz coatings spot a ton and I haven`t really seen spots on the pbl stuff I`ve done. (but those would be harder since they are lighter color cars

[rlmccarty2000]

I`m not sure how long my waxes last. The car is garaged but driven about 3 times a week and I have never noticed any loss of hydrophobic qualities. I use CGs V7 as a QD between washes and CG V7 soap as maintenance. The wax could be wearing off and the PBL coating could be causing the water to bead. I`m not really certain, but my car always shines.

[boxingfan30]

Synergy still sounds like something I`d be interested in trying, still curious since it has nano stuff if it has a level of marring resistance.

[Ronkh]

Synergy still sounds like something I`d be interested in trying, still curious since it has nano stuff if it has a level of marring resistance.

Synergy is really really nice. Got it, use it. Not gonna try to see the scratch resistance.

[boxingfan30]

Synergy is really really nice. Got it, use it. Not gonna try to see the scratch resistance.

I just don`t have the money for it right now. It`s not cheap.

[jrock645]

I just don`t have the money for it right now. It`s not cheap.

Sure isnt. Unless there`s some crazy sale like the recent one on Fuzion, I doubt I`ll ever buy. Just can`t bring myself to spend $200 on a jar of wax.

[boxingfan30]

Anyone tried this?
VOC Free Paint Sealant | Dr. Beasley`s

[mg031]

Anyone tried this?
VOC Free Paint Sealant | Dr. Beasley`s

No but I have tried this,
Nano-Resin | Dr. Beasley`s

Had it on 5 months so far and holding up great and looks great. Slick and so far no need for topper and resists water spots pretty well.
Will it last the advertised 2-3 years? remains to be seen.

[boxingfan30]

No but I have tried this,
Nano-Resin | Dr. Beasley`s

Had it on 5 months so far and holding up great and looks great. Slick and so far no need for topper and resists water spots pretty well.
Will it last the advertised 2-3 years? remains to be seen.

Yes, but at the price that it is, even if it failed within a year it`s still a better priced product for what you say the performance is.

[mg031]

Yes, but at the price that it is, even if it failed within a year it`s still a better priced product for what you say the performance is.

That`s why I bought 2 of these bottles for testing So far doesn`t look like a need for the second bottle. I think I will use it on a detail, next time for a coating.

What`s even better is there`s no Odor to get you dizzy if doing in a garage and you don`t have to be so OCD in removing it proper / high spots like alot of coatings. We`ll see in the long run.

[mg031]

Speaking of toppers. I also don`t like / see a need if it`s a true coating. However, I did really like Sonax Polymer Netshield on top of Opticoat. The beading and self cleaning characteristics where ridiculously good. Better than the reloads etc. Don`t know if it works as good on Cquartz / Gloss coat but will also try to test it. I don`t see why it wouldn`t work.

[MiVor]

First lemme say that I`ve yet to use a coating...so a grain of salt is required here. However, I have used my fair share of waxes and polymer sealants over 40+ years.
I think there are many different camps out there...and here. Some want gloss, some want durability/longevity. Some want an all in one cleaner/`wax`. Some will clay and or polish, some never will. Some will wash every week and `wax` often, others will not. For some the ride is a baby, for others it`s a neglected step child.

I want to keep my truck looking new. I can invest extra time spring, summer and fall, but we get a good 5 months of winter with SALT and the cold weather prevents anything other than the touchless or coin-op pressure wash. So in the fall, I like to lay on some protection that will get me through the winter.
I`m currently in a Duragloss sealant phase: 601/105 & 601/111, topped with Aquawax. I`ve yet to see how it fairs over the harsh winter (maybe I`ll top the sealant with collinite before the snow flies)

I too am a bit skeptical of the coating hype, especially the ones with `pro` brands I`m not allowed to use. It reminds me of the driveway sealant guys that tell me they use a special sealant I couldn`t buy. Then they spray on a micro layer of something that doesn`t last any longer than anything I can buy and doesn`t fill in cracks worth beans!
And then there`s hearing the stories of streaking and spotting with coatings, so I think I`ll stick with sealants, especially for winter and maybe a good carnuba in spring/summer.

[boxingfan30]

Speaking of toppers. I also don`t like / see a need if it`s a true coating. However, I did really like Sonax Polymer Netshield on top of Opticoat. The beading and self cleaning characteristics where ridiculously good. Better than the reloads etc. Don`t know if it works as good on Cquartz / Gloss coat but will also try to test it. I don`t see why it wouldn`t work.

I have heard a lot of things about netshield ... good things I mean

[Ronkh]

Got a few cans of pns sitting here. Haven`t used it yet.

[boxingfan30]

Got a few cans of pns sitting here. Haven`t used it yet.

are you one of those shopaholics I talked about? lol