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    Re: Opti-Coat Gloss Coat experience

    You`d think that the desire to top a coating with wax (its hard for me to even type it)... at this point in time would be something that wouldn`t be possible.

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    Re: Opti-Coat Gloss Coat experience

    For reference it took 8cc`s of Gloss-Coat to cover my Sable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Dekany View Post
    Complete waste, you will not get the benefit of Gloss Coat having a wax on top. You should have applied a thicker layer. It`s like saying that you will put on a t shirt on top of a bullet proof vest to prevent getting injured.
    That`s a great analogy!

    Having tried a lot of different waxes on Gloss-Coat, I can say I`m not a fan of topping Gloss-Coat on my personal vehicle. Topping with a wax will definitely give you a different look. So I can imagine certain vehicles or colors will look better with a certain wax on top of Gloss-Coat. But for my ride, I like the looks and protection of Gloss-Coat on it`s own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellinger View Post
    You were close.... minus a few drops. Thomas is correct here.
    The remaining unaccounted for drops are used to prime the pad

    I should have been more specific

    I agree, Thomas is right. If you follow the instructions provided by Optimum, you will not get a good result

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    Re: Opti-Coat Gloss Coat experience

    I really need to find the time to get the gloss coat I have in my cabinet on my wife`s Fusion.



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    Re: Opti-Coat Gloss Coat experience

    I used roughly 5-6 mL of product on the M3 we applied Gloss-Coat to last year... that was using the CQuartz applicator and suede to apply a thin, even layer across each panel.




    The majority of the product would flash away on its own...




    Then the remaining high spots were effortlessly wiped away with a MF towel. The end results were very pleasing.



    I`ve used many coatings over the years, and while I do not have any personal experience on the durability of gloss coat, the application is certainly the quickest/easiest compared to the many competitors. If it does perform well for the advertised 2 years, it will be a great product for consumers and professionals alike.

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    Re: Opti-Coat Gloss Coat experience

    I did another coat and ended up using 5 ml. I followed the instructions and that is what I ended up using so maybe the instructions should be revised. I`ll keep any eye on and report back with durability when using the recommended amount. If I get a year of good protection out of it I`ll be satisfied, if I get two years like the product advertises I`ll be a customer for life.

    As for topping with a wax, the analogy isn`t really all that good because a t-shirt will never stop a bullet whereas FK or collinite will stop rain etching and bird bombs. Besides, just like pretty much everyone likes wearing a t-shirt over a bullet proof vest, I enjoy applying wax over my paint.

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    Re: Opti-Coat Gloss Coat experience

    Quote Originally Posted by extrabolts View Post
    I did another coat and ended up using 5 ml. I followed the instructions and that is what I ended up using so maybe the instructions should be revised. I`ll keep any eye on and report back with durability when using the recommended amount. If I get a year of good protection out of it I`ll be satisfied, if I get two years like the product advertises I`ll be a customer for life.

    As for topping with a wax, the analogy isn`t really all that good because a t-shirt will never stop a bullet whereas FK or collinite will stop rain etching and bird bombs. Besides, just like pretty much everyone likes wearing a t-shirt over a bullet proof vest, I enjoy applying wax over my paint.
    I did another coat and ended up using 5 ml - you can not layer Gloss Coat. Will not stick.

    As for topping with a wax, the analogy isn`t really all that good - Not unless you understand the differences between a wax/sealant vs Gloss Coat. If you feel that FK stops bird etching: 1 - the formula was changed since I used it, 2 - why put a coating underneath it?

    I enjoy applying wax over my paint - That is beautiful, but again you will not get the benefit of Gloss Coat by topping it. However if you keep putting FK1 over it, Optimum will have a customer for life 100% because it may end up on the paint for many extra years beyond 2 that you are hoping for!

    Once, many years ago I corrected my van and put on CG`s XXX wax. Did it every week, for a whole year except for 4 weekends where I was on vacation or something else came up. So 48 weeks. I stopped and just washed the car for the next 5 or so months and when I repolished it, there was hardly any dirt/contamination on the car. See, you can get almost 18 months of durability out of a so so wax if you try hard enough. So your combo will definitely gets you over 2 years.

    But to see how durable GC is, it needs to take all the abuse, not hide under a wax. Just my opinion. I could be wrong though.

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    Re: Opti-Coat Gloss Coat experience

    Quote Originally Posted by extrabolts View Post
    I did another coat and ended up using 5 ml. I followed the instructions and that is what I ended up using so maybe the instructions should be revised. I`ll keep any eye on and report back with durability when using the recommended amount. If I get a year of good protection out of it I`ll be satisfied, if I get two years like the product advertises I`ll be a customer for life.

    As for topping with a wax, the analogy isn`t really all that good because a t-shirt will never stop a bullet whereas FK or collinite will stop rain etching and bird bombs. Besides, just like pretty much everyone likes wearing a t-shirt over a bullet proof vest, I enjoy applying wax over my paint.
    Don`t know what kind of birds you have in your area, but Collinite never stopped bird bomb etching for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rsurfer View Post
    Don`t know what kind of birds you have in your area, but Collinite never stopped bird bomb etching for me.
    Humming birds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Dekany View Post
    I did another coat and ended up using 5 ml - you can not layer Gloss Coat. Will not stick.
    This is wrong. You can layer Gloss Coat. I did it the same night that I applied, and it stuck fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Dekany View Post
    Complete waste, you will not get the benefit of Gloss Coat having a wax on top. You should have applied a thicker layer. It`s like saying that you will put on a t shirt on top of a bullet proof vest to prevent getting injured.
    Not to mention wax won`t bond to Gloss-Coat so it`ll be gone in a week.

    I`ve had Gloss-Coat on my Accord that sits outside 24/7 and it still looks amazing.

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    Im sure some products will go well with a coating
    Carpro reload, PA Viking Spirtz, Max Protect silk coat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Dekany View Post
    About 9cc of Gloss Coat on this car.

    Thomas, this is the same car I have but in black, it does look fantastic! I have not used gloss coat yet, but so far for ease of application and removal like 22ple vx1. I have some vx3 I am going to use on my father`s Buick lacrosse, so I`ll be interested to see how that looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by extrabolts View Post
    I did another coat and ended up using 5 ml. I followed the instructions and that is what I ended up using so maybe the instructions should be revised. I`ll keep any eye on and report back with durability when using the recommended amount. If I get a year of good protection out of it I`ll be satisfied, if I get two years like the product advertises I`ll be a customer for life.

    As for topping with a wax, the analogy isn`t really all that good because a t-shirt will never stop a bullet whereas FK or collinite will stop rain etching and bird bombs. Besides, just like pretty much everyone likes wearing a t-shirt over a bullet proof vest, I enjoy applying wax over my paint.
    I have to agree to an extent, the UK that`s on my car now just spots sp badly that it needs domething, and while the dirt shedding us excellt, less than a year and without reload, it beads no water, it looks like there is nothing there. However, the collinite fleet wax just doesn`t let the water in to spot the clear, of course there is a trade off because to be fair, there`s little to no marring from the CQUK.

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    Re: Opti-Coat Gloss Coat experience

    Why is there a warning not to use gloss coat on glass? I thought the opt coat 2.0 was put everywhere including side and back glass

 

 
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