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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by House of Wax View Post
    Hopefully more companies like 3D will continue to release products as effective as iron x and we`ll see prices come down across the board
    I wouldn`t get your hopes up too much, apparently the active ingredient is quite expensive. Apparently the reason these wheel cleaners have become available in recent years is not because of some new chemical, but because someone thought they could market an expensive wheel cleaner to us crazy detailers. And yes, it smells like hair perm because it`s the same chemical (or a close cousin), and it`s been used industrially to remove rust stains from concrete just like Tunch was doing in the video, for many many years.
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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    Excited to try it, as long as it`s comparable to the other iron removers out there in strength and effectiveness, I could care less about the smell
    Especially if it costs much less!

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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    Need price and release date please. Or if you want real world testing i would be happy to sample this at the Audi dealership i detail at wink wink

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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    Any idea of a release date and pricing..........

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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by ec90 View Post
    Is it going to have it`s smell masked more effectively? Looking forward to the comparisons.
    This product has a slight Citrus smell that should take away from the pungency of the sulfur smell. I`m not going to say that it doesn`t smell, just not super bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneB View Post
    Couldn`t help but notice that he was using it in direct sunlight. Will this product be sun friendly or was it just a cool day that made it acceptable to use?
    Sure is. You just want to avoid the product from drying on the surface.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pats300zx View Post
    Great stuff David. Looks like another winning product from 3D.
    Thanks Pat! I`m hoping that you give it a try and let us know what you think.

    Quote Originally Posted by JSFM35X View Post
    David,

    You got me, I will buy a bottle to try. I have 4 Litters of Iron X sitting on my self, but I would buy to try and make it my go to if its 1/2 price and works like that. I just need to see that the surface is slick after use (contam free like with Iron X) and the clay stays relatively clean.

    Then I will buy big bottles.
    If you like Iron-X, you`ll love 3D/HD`s offering. Not going to say that the surface will be "slick" as that`s typically a result of using a protectant, but the surface (and your clay bar after) will be iron particle free.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc08EX View Post
    This product is very intriguing. I will for sure buy this if it works better and the price is cheaper than IronX.

    One comment though. It seems to react very quickly to the iron and turns purple right away... That`s pretty good!
    That`s the whole point of offering a product such as this. People want cheap, quick & easy to use as time is money. This one absolutely reacts quickly to any iron deposits on the surface and constantly keeps breaking it down.

    Quote Originally Posted by tmurph01 View Post
    Im highly interested! My questions are this...

    I solely try to use 3D/HD products because of their "green", eco-friendly, VOC free, and environmentally safe compounds. Some of, if not most/all of, the other iron removers on the market are harsh and nowhere near friendly. Being a 3D product, will this still follow the company standards as well as remain made in America?

    I hope that you have been able to make this more appealing to the senses, mainly smell, than the others have. While this isnt a huge deciding factor for me, it does make using these products more enjoyable...

    Cost, as stated above. Most of the similar products out there are not cost effective for us pro detailers out there trying to make a living. If this can come out at a price point that not only appeals to the consumer, but can allow the pros to offer this process on more packages, it would not only benefit our clients, but make our detailing process quicker as well, resulting in more free time. Which we all know.. time equals money...

    I agree with others comments about how fast it started to react, and I fore one, would love to be one of the first detailers to get my hands on a bottle to try and evaluate. Especially on the East coast...

    When can we expect a release date, and do you need any real-world evaluations? If so, I would love to do one for you!!!
    This product will 100% be manufactured by 3D in Santa Clarita, CA. Keep in mind that most of these type of iron removers aren`t manufactured by the retail companies selling them which is why the prices are so astronomical. This will also be 100% VOC compliant too. We`re still pondering offering this product as a concentrate or as a RTU. The odor on the RTU version is much more masked from my findings.

    Quote Originally Posted by IHA Mark View Post
    Cost effective iron remover? You`ve got me sold. I normally don`t use them just because of the massive expense, and for those not doing $500+ details every day it can be a huge budget buster. Would love to product test/review as well if it gets to that stage.
    I`m willing to bet that this will be the most cost effective iron remover on the market and will end up putting a bee hive in many competitor`s bonnet. In fact, I`ve already seen a few complain about how this products is already being marketed.

    Quote Originally Posted by House of Wax View Post
    Hopefully more companies like 3D will continue to release products as effective as iron x and we`ll see prices come down across the board
    Yeah, the high price gravy train has been ridden for quite a while which has turned off a ton of people(myself included) from trying these types of products. I can`t speak on all the companies, but the ones that don`t manufacturer their own products might not be able to compete in this arena?

    Quote Originally Posted by JSFM35X View Post
    I hope this is not a teaser video and the product is not released in a timely manner. I am really wanting to get my hands on a sample bottle. Looks promising.

    David, is this made in the USA?
    Like mentioned above, this and ALL of our products are proudly manufactured in the US (Santa Clarita, CA). Testing is just about finalized, but there`s a ton of behind the scenes things that need to be finished before launching. I`ll give a date as soon as I know it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy View Post
    I wouldn`t get your hopes up too much, apparently the active ingredient is quite expensive. Apparently the reason these wheel cleaners have become available in recent years is not because of some new chemical, but because someone thought they could market an expensive wheel cleaner to us crazy detailers. And yes, it smells like hair perm because it`s the same chemical (or a close cousin), and it`s been used industrially to remove rust stains from concrete just like Tunch was doing in the video, for many many years.
    Believe it or not, it`s not very expensive to produce this product, yet many companies have been getting away with marking it up more than any other product they carry. I know the wholesale cost that a few rebottlers are paying and I can assure you it`s being stepped on pretty hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve1972 View Post
    Need price and release date please. Or if you want real world testing i would be happy to sample this at the Audi dealership i detail at wink wink
    Quote Originally Posted by Tpr1634 View Post
    Any idea of a release date and pricing..........
    Even though I don`t have a dog in the race, I`m really hoping it hits the market in the next 60 days. Stay tuned as we get through all the behind the scenes red tape.
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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    Thanks for the update David.

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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    I meant slick in that free of contaminant bumps not LSP slick. Probably not the best choice of words on my part.

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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by David Fermani View Post
    Believe it or not, it`s not very expensive to produce this product, yet many companies have been getting away with marking it up more than any other product they carry. I know the wholesale cost that a few rebottlers are paying and I can assure you it`s being stepped on pretty hard.
    I dunno, the active ingredient looks pretty expensive to me, about $200 a pound (this is a typical iron removing ingredient):

    Sodium thioglycolate ?96.5% (iodometric) | Sigma-Aldrich

    https://www.spectrumchemical.com/OA_...?section=16926

    I guess we`ll see when this product comes out how the price compares to Iron X, FerreX, etc.

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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    Thank you, David.....

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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    This is great news! I love Iron X but it`s almost too expensive for what it is. I love 3D/HD Products so this should be a win/win.

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    Can`t wait to try it! I`m finding more and more that I need a product like this in my supplies but the price has always turned me off

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    I`m really looking forward to this too. Since adding 3D products to Autopia, the feedback has been great.

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    COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    This is really good news, iron x can get really expensive, 3D to the rescue

    I wonder what 3D is gonna call this product
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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mp0wer View Post
    This is really good news, iron x can get really expensive, 3D to the rescue

    I wonder what 3D is gonna call this product
    3D / HD Iron Out! lol
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    Re: COMING SOON FROM 3D/HD: Iron Particle Remover (video)

    Updates??
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