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    Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    How long will it last before needing to reapply? Will be using the polymer spray every 6-8 weeks.

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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    I apply 2 coats of BFWD waiting 12 hrs apart and then use the BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond Polymer Spray twice a month after a wash. This regiment lasted just well over a year for me.
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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Isewake View Post
    How long will it last before needing to reapply? Will be using the polymer spray every 6-8 weeks.
    Well that depends on the following factors:
    • paint type
    • storage factors
    • environmental exposure
    • climate
    • pre-application prep work
    • washing methods
    • shampoo type
    • humidity
    • application type


    In general you will see 3-6 months of stand alone protection. On a garage kept show car, it is easy to see more than a year of durability vs. a daily driver in which the product was slathered over neglected paint, in which case you may only see 2 months.

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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Helme View Post
    Well that depends on the following factors:
    • paint type
    • storage factors
    • environmental exposure
    • climate
    • pre-application prep work
    • washing methods
    • shampoo type
    • humidity
    • application type


    In general you will see 3-6 months of stand alone protection. On a garage kept show car, it is easy to see more than a year of durability vs. a daily driver in which the product was slathered over neglected paint, in which case you may only see 2 months.
    • Daily driver (2001 gold Toyota Tacoma).
    • Carport at night, outside during the day.
    • Living in Hawaii
    • Will be using SRC finishing polish as prep work with a 6" Griots polisher
    • Have a foam gun for a presoak and will use BF shampoo in 2 bucket wash
    • Applied with the Griots
    • Will do two layer but may be a week apart with a wash

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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Isewake View Post
    • Daily driver (2001 gold Toyota Tacoma).
    • Carport at night, outside during the day.
    • Living in Hawaii
    • Will be using SRC finishing polish as prep work with a 6" Griots polisher
    • Have a foam gun for a presoak and will use BF shampoo in 2 bucket wash
    • Applied with the Griots
    • Will do two layer but may be a week apart with a wash

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    Around 3 months if I had to estimate. With the BF Shampoo and BF Spray, you will likely extend to 6 months. Hawaii is a touch climate and being exposed 24/7 will have some negative benefit.

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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    Put Crytal Seal over it, then use the Poly Spray for touch up after washes.
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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

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    Put Crytal Seal over it, then use the Poly Spray for touch up after washes.
    Great combination!

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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    Would Crystal Seal increase durability? Was hoping to get 9-12 months. Maybe they`ll come out with a nano sealant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isewake View Post
    Would Crystal Seal increase durability? Was hoping to get 9-12 months. Maybe they`ll come out with a nano sealant?
    If you want that kind of durability then look to a coating.
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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Isewake View Post
    Would Crystal Seal increase durability? Was hoping to get 9-12 months. Maybe they`ll come out with a nano sealant?
    Durability with Blackfire has never been an issue. I usually get around 4 months with my truck sitting outside all the time. It`s such an easy sealant to apply that I can do my whole truck in no time with a PC and a Lake Country Gold pad.
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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Evan.J View Post
    If you want that kind of durability then look to a coating.
    You may be right

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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Isewake View Post
    Would Crystal Seal increase durability? Was hoping to get 9-12 months. Maybe they`ll come out with a nano sealant?
    Yes, it is possible to extend the BLACKFIRE protection to a year, or indefinitely if you products like Crystal Seal and Polymer Spray frequently, because you are constantly infusing Wet Diamond polymers onto the paint. At some point, likely around the 6 month mark, a significant amount of the original polymers would be gone, but you would never notice as you have constantly replenished them.

    So it`s kind of a trick question, the proper upkeep, anything can appear to last forever, but if you want to keep Wet Diamond AFPP as your base, you are best to reapply ever 6 months and maintain semi-frequently.

    Another product you might consider, is Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Sealant. This resin-based formula will get very close to a year of durability on it`s own, and even more if you use the Black Label Diamond Booster Spray.

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    Batch 25, nice!

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    Re: Durability of BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Helme View Post
    Yes, it is possible to extend the BLACKFIRE protection to a year, or indefinitely if you products like Crystal Seal and Polymer Spray frequently, because you are constantly infusing Wet Diamond polymers onto the paint. At some point, likely around the 6 month mark, a significant amount of the original polymers would be gone, but you would never notice as you have constantly replenished them.

    So it`s kind of a trick question, the proper upkeep, anything can appear to last forever, but if you want to keep Wet Diamond AFPP as your base, you are best to reapply ever 6 months and maintain semi-frequently.

    Another product you might consider, is Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Sealant. This resin-based formula will get very close to a year of durability on it`s own, and even more if you use the Black Label Diamond Booster Spray.
    May have to look into that. right now I`m using Wolf`s Chemicals Hard Body and seems to be OK. It`s been on only a couple of months though. They have a new product out but not sold in the US yet. That is why I`m thinking of changing to a US made product line. Seems easier to get especially in Hawaii.

 

 
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