Told not to wax car with diamond gloss from ziebart

[Ronkh]

You ever been near buffalo in January and seen the amount of salt they use? Obviously you`ve never seen a car from here.

I lived in Rochester suburb for 5 years......

you got took. hook, line and sinker

[tropicsteve]

Annually

I got that part, but for how many years will they continue to recoat it for you ?

[Ronkh]

I got that part, but for how many years will they continue to recoat it for you ?

Auto armour used to give ya a bottle and tell ya to do it yourself

[cc rider]

I got that part, but for how many years will they continue to recoat it for you ?

For the life of vehicle as long as you go every year and don`t miss one treatment. I had it done in March so I have to go back every march. I think they give you like a30 day range to play with for an appointment. Have to look at my contract.

[cc rider]

I lived in Rochester suburb for 5 years......

you got took. hook, line and sinker

Maybe you should reread my post. Especially the 4th sentence. I make enough dough that a couple hundred dollars won`t bother me for an annual wax job. Especially when it`s already there at the shop getting resprayed in the middle of winter and they clean it for you. If you lived in Rochester I don`t understand how you can say what you did. Salt accelerates rusting. Agree? The spraying of the frame etc helps to slow down that process. These are my own words. You can believe that or not.I choose to believe it.

[tropicsteve]

For the life of vehicle as long as you go every year and don`t miss one treatment. I had it done in March so I have to go back every march. I think they give you like a30 day range to play with for an appointment. Have to look at my contract.

can`t beat that, I say let them do it. if the finish declines during the year, ask them if waxing, etc will void the warranty. if not, wax away. plenty of easy to use spray waxes out there for a quick refresh.

[EVOlved]

can`t beat that, I say let them do it. if the finish declines during the year, ask them if waxing, etc will void the warranty. if not, wax away. plenty of easy to use spray waxes out there for a quick refresh.

They would never know anyway.. Come on.. I don`t want to say it as harsh as some of the other guys but rust protection?? What are they putting on for that I want to see this.

[tedj101]

Maybe you should reread my post. Especially the 4th sentence. I make enough dough that a couple hundred dollars won`t bother me for an annual wax job. Especially when it`s already there at the shop getting resprayed in the middle of winter and they clean it for you. If you lived in Rochester I don`t understand how you can say what you did. Salt accelerates rusting. Agree? The spraying of the frame etc helps to slow down that process. These are my own words. You can believe that or not.I choose to believe it.

I think he is referring to two facts: 1) Rust coating is done at the factory on most quality cars these days and 2) Rust coating applied in the aftermarket is an iffy proposition. If done well, it can be effective, but if not done well, it can create rust by sealing foreign matter under the rust coating. The likelihood of getting it done well in a competitive automotive marketing environment is speculative.

I used to be in the automotive business and we used to sell this stuff. I don`t buy it as a matter of policy for the reasons said above.

As always, YMMV...

[cc rider]

I did all the research I could before buying the product. I did read a few sites that stated the same things you posted. But, for the most part, people that have bought it were satisfied. Its like you said, the product has to be applied well. There`s always warranty.

I think he is referring to two facts: 1) Rust coating is done at the factory on most quality cars these days and 2) Rust coating applied in the aftermarket is an iffy proposition. If done well, it can be effective, but if not done well, it can create rust by sealing foreign matter under the rust coating. The likelihood of getting it done well in a competitive automotive marketing environment is speculative.

I used to be in the automotive business and we used to sell this stuff. I don`t buy it as a matter of policy for the reasons said above.

As always, YMMV...

[Todd@RUPES]

When it comes to rust protection, it is not needed. However, if you got a warranty and plan on using your car as a daily driver, then it sounds good.

[Ronkh]

I think he is referring to two facts: 1) Rust coating is done at the factory on most quality cars these days and 2) Rust coating applied in the aftermarket is an iffy proposition. If done well, it can be effective, but if not done well, it can create rust by sealing foreign matter under the rust coating. The likelihood of getting it done well in a competitive automotive marketing environment is speculative.

I used to be in the automotive business and we used to sell this stuff. I don`t buy it as a matter of policy for the reasons said above.

As always, YMMV...

As well with all the little holes they drill to get their wand in to apply rustproofing to inside panels. That breaks the zinc (?) dip coating and then they put a nice little plastic hole cover that shrinks and expands with the weather.

Ahhh, but what do I know.......

"rust and dust" .... separating a customer from their money for decades.

[Merlin]

[marlinspike]

Anybody who collects classic cars knows the "rust proofing" actually makes matters worse. While galvanized steel can still eventually rust, you`re better off just keeping it clean.

[Ccrew]

Anybody who collects classic cars knows the "rust proofing" actually makes matters worse. While galvanized steel can still eventually rust, you`re better off just keeping it clean.

Yup. And as us newer Dodge Challenger owners know now that they`re hitting + 5 years old they`re starting to rust in the rockers/rear quarters where the factory injected foam as a filler. And mine`s even Ziebart rustproofed. That`s a joke I tell ya. Better question is whether anyone`s ever gotten Ziebart to pay when their stuff didn`t work.

[jfelbab]

Where is their warranty? Why do you suppose they don`t publish their warranty on their website? If your paint fails, do they repaint or do they simply refund your original payment?