Told not to wax car with diamond gloss from ziebart

[Ccrew]

Where is their warranty? Why do you suppose they don`t publish their warranty on their website? If your paint fails, do they repaint or do they simply refund your original payment?

It might be they don`t publish it because they`re a freaking scam. They also completely fail to mention the "warranty" doesn`t even apply unless you take it back to them for a yearly "inspection" where they try to sell you more. And while the OP "has enough bucks" (or did in a year old post) to not care about the cost he`ll be happy paying like in my case the $2200 bill to cut all the rust out of a 5 year old car with 47k miles on it. Ziebart? Wouldn`t cover anything because the huge spot at the bottom of the passenger quarter panel wasn`t "rusted through" even though it had popped all the paint from underneath. I bought the car from the original owner and had all the docs, had I been the one to have paid for the Ziebart scam I would have been royally pissed.

[Accumulator]

I wouldn`t generalize to the point that all rustproofing is detrimental, and though I generally do the "just keep it spotlessly clean" route myself, with enough winter salt/etc. exposure certain vehicles simply rust out without a *properly done* rustproofing. Of course, some rust out even *with* it due to goofy design ideas like that foam in the rockers (IIRC, Honda has a similar problem around some fuel filler pockets).

[MiVor]

and another thing...rust protection?

on a new car these days?

not needed at all....even in the northeast

Well yer in Florida but I LIVE in the northeast (just a few miles from a SALT mine) and I see rust buckets every day. True, `new` vehicles take some time to rust, but I`ve seen 2-3 year olds with rust. Rust proofing and undercoating is worth the time and money if one plans on keeping the ride....and with today`s vehicles (if taken care of) pushing 200k miles, what`s a couple hundred dollars to keep the rust at bay?! <rhetorical>

[MiVor]

I can understand with their sealant or coating they don`t want you to `wax` - many `waxes` have cleaners that could negate their product.
When you think of it, this is a pretty good detailing ploy of sorts. Sell an annual service....many folks buy a new car thinking they`ll keep it so they buy the rust proofing, undercoating and paint protection plan that includes the annual service. But then many, if not most, get the itch in 2 or 3 years and buy another one.

[Accumulator]

MiVor- (as per my post on the other thread...) at least that way they have the car looking OK for their term of ownership without having to do much.