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Old 09-21-05, 12:14   #13 (permalink)
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It's amazing what you can actually get in the U.K. compared with just a couple of years ago. Granted, the prices seem to be on the high side, but increased exposure to high end products has to be good for "serious" detailers in the U.K.
Now let me just do that order to Autopia............
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Old 09-21-05, 12:23   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RobDon
Can't see anyone paying those prices when you can order for a fraction of that and get it in 3 days from Autopia!
The PC is nearly twice the price. It's crazy

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Might be worth finding out whether autopia will still send us stuff now that we have a UK distributor!
I hope so...
 
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Old 09-21-05, 01:11   #15 (permalink)
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Don't know why the prices are so high... import duty is only 3 - 6.5% on car care goods, plus VAT on the lot. Even adding highish overheads doesn't seem to add up.
This is what I can't work out. Take the Sonus professional bucket for example that ACC sell for for $69.95, which at todays exchange rate work out to be £38.65.

£38.65*1.065(6.5% import duty)*1.175(VAT) = £48.37

So TPC are making £34 (excluding their overheads) on a damn bucket!

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Old 09-21-05, 11:27   #16 (permalink)
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Tidy profit!!! If any one off here buys that bucket at that price I will come and stick there head in it!

Agree with Peter here things have moved on so much from the options we used to get. Autoglym and over priced Zymol and Wax Wizard products when I first getting serious. Then we where able to get things like Blitz and S100, and Meguiars allowing you to purchase pro line stuff if you asked was as good as it got. Now we are really spoilt for a price!
 
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Old 09-22-05, 12:07   #17 (permalink)
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And things are only going to get better.
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I agree too, and I sell the Pak Shak towels in the UK!! Dont forget that he wont be paying the price that you see on Autopia but i "trade" price too.... maybe he is whacking all the delivery that he has to pay onto the buckets....

I know that my orders without any import duty have a cost of about $300 - $400 for delivery so that has to be put in somewhere.

Or, maybe he is just Greedy... Supply and Demand and all that....
 
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Hello
I feel that I should respond regarding the pricing of Sonus products in the UK
In an era of world wide on line shopping we can personally purchase just about anything from just about anywhere
However i should point out that the vat paid on import is actually calculated on the total cost of the goods + the cost of the carriage. The duty aspect is actually negligible when compared to this. Although I have worked hard to gain approved shipper status with carriers to keep the freight costs down the cost of shipping larger amounts of products is high being calulated on volumetric weight. This means shipping cost are anywhere between 30% to 50% of the cost of the product. I was recently quoted over £700 to ship a similar weight by a national carrier! this equated to almost 100% of the cost of the product. If anyone would like to get a cost for shipping 150Kg from California to the uk then customs clearance, handling charges and delivery to another UK destination I am sure that you will concur that importing on a commercial basis is a whole different ball game from a personal import via USPS.
In addition the company is limited and vat registered, unlike many of our on-line competitors and as such we have to give Mr Brown 17.5% of the sale price on everything we sell. So in effect HM's Gov collect from us twice. I am not making a "fat profit" as many may imagine

I hope that this clarifies things just a little for you all.

Having done some test "purchases" of small orders from Autopia and compared the carriage costs the UK supplied items compete if you take the vat and other costs into consideration.
eg order 2 x Sonus SFX clay bars from autopia and the total cost is $58.70 including shipping. Add duty and VAT at the uk end and the cost is approximately £41 and you haven't had to pay HMG 20% on top.... CF the on line price is £39.
It would be nice to be able to lower carriage charges as well but again HMG takes 17.5% of "carriage" yet we can not reclaim the cost of postage!

Re the Pro Bucket...... yes the price is a joke! but at least you all looked !! The bucket comes with seat liner lid etc. The travelling dolly costs the same as the bucket and it weighs a ton! I'm going to ask David if he will sell just the buckets lids and insert combo which will be a more sensible £35. I do know the supplier of the system but they won't sell direct to me as they supply Autopia and I do not wish to upset one or the other. I could by direct at US RRP but the cost of transportation means it is not viable.

It does however surprise me that these types of quality goods are not available in Europe....
Having used the Sonus range in my own business I firmly believe these are excellent products and I hope that I may count on your support. To this end I am happy to offer discount vouchers to clubs and groups who wish to purchase from "the UK" despite all its red tape and expensive pricing. Feel free to e-mail me for a 10% introductory voucher code if you want to purchase via my on-line shop.
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Fair play to you for that BUT if I import 2 Sonus SFX clay bars from autopia, all I pay is $58.70 - which is less than £39 at the current exchange rate.

Can you also answer whether autopia USA will still sell to UK customers? I appreciate that VAT etc are out of your control but as things stand I'm afraid it's cheaper to buy direct from autopia USA
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Small point, but if you are VAT registered it means you are claiming back the VAT you are paying out on everything you buy for your business, including the stock - the competitors you speak of cannot do this, and thus have to cover the VAT from their own pockets.
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Folks,

Give the UK resellers a break. At least Mike at TPCL and Ron at Motorgeek have had the courage to bite the bullet and start selling these top end products when there is lots of (internet) competition stateside. By selling these products this side of the pond, a whole new generation of enthusiasts will be born (& educated). Their service is second to none either. No more settling for second best at the local retailer. They have lots of fans in the Emerald Isle !!!
 
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And a lot of fans here too - don't get me wrong, I'm not putting down, just questioning the pricing. The service offered by the companies mentioned is indeed excellent.
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I know you do Richard. I'm lucky as I get all my stuff VAT free. D'ont have to pay and reclaim - it's great. So long.
 
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