swirls caused after i polished and waxed
Posted 17 March 2002 - 03:45 PM
On the side of my car that's facing the sun i have what look like are 3d swirl marks. They move in strange patterns as you walk down the side. upon closer inspection, i noticed lots and lots of tiny scratches going down the side, where the light would reflect and refract causing the problem. I tried QD (both BFs and Pinnacle's) and that didn't help at all. All that work, the scratches were gone. Then sometime after i put down the PC they came back. i used YoSteve's MF towels for the whole process. I did go over it today with the cali car duster, but i wouldn't think that would cause that many scratches. My car feels smooth... but looks horrible. I'm affraid i'll have to dawn it all off and start over. The same thing happend after the first wash the last time i waxed it (meguires stuff). I don't know what i'm doing wrong. Has anyone faced this problem? I might try layering some souveren over my BF to see if that covers them up. But i feel they will just be back. I believe the problem lies in the bf itself and not down to the clear coat (or so i would hope) might it be that my MF towels are too drity? Any advice of any sort will be greatly appreciated.
'00 FBP Civic SI
Posted 17 March 2002 - 04:26 PM
After each step, dawn, claying, polishing, whatever.....try to get the vehicle exposed to sunlight and view it from every angle, especially at twilight when the sun is going down. It seems to show every defect in your paint then. If you do this, you will spot these problems and hopefully correct them before you put product over them.
If you did scratch from the clay, then these scratches are below everything else and you may have to polish them out. I used to use Meguairs clay....no more- that stuff leaves streaks and scratches. You can't see these defects while claying in the shade. You must bring vehicle into the sunlight after doing it to check your work. Whatever you do, don't clay in the sun!!!! I now use clay from Griots Garage, much cleaner, no streaks, etc.
See what others have to say, but I bet the clay is the culprit....
Posted 17 March 2002 - 05:30 PM
'00 FBP Civic SI
Posted 17 March 2002 - 06:10 PM
Do either of those polishes contain fillers? It is possible they covered up some problems for a short time. If I am not mistaken, the Blackfire's first coat has cleaners in it. Such cleaners would dissolve fillers from the polish, and any mistakes that were covered would be seen again.
I'm not an expert. but this seems logical given the steps you described.
Posted 17 March 2002 - 07:03 PM
Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Sausalito, CA
Curiuous about the use of both SMR and Meguiar's #9 Swirl Remover 2.0. Do you need to wash the car after using either of them with sealant type polishes? I notice that SMR comes in light and dark and that makes me think fillers and snooping on carcareonline about #9 â€œPolishes out all minor paint blemishes and feeds the paint with rich nutrients to bring out vibrant color and brilliance while extending paint lifeâ€. Wondering if there could be bonding issues with products like Klasse, Zaino & Blackfire with what's left behind.
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03-14-2002 12:33 AM
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Los Angeles/Ann Arbor
Welcome to the forums SJ!
Yes, there can be bonding problems with Zaino, Klasse, etc. and SMR/#9. It is recommended that you wash the car after polishing and before applying a sealant to remove any oils/residue that the polish left behind.
Posted 17 March 2002 - 08:51 PM
'00 FBP Civic SI
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