What does a professional detail cost
Posted 07 December 2001 - 06:16 PM
Some type of Polish to prep the paint
SG - two coats
Pretty up the interior
Any detaling details that I have left out
What would it cost?
Or better asked, "What am I saving doing it myself?"
Posted 07 December 2001 - 06:24 PM
where are you located?
Posted 07 December 2001 - 06:59 PM
You only do this to save money? Wow, that's different motivation than most. I personally wouldn't let most "professional" detailers anywhere near my car. I do it myself because I know only I can produce the results that will satisfy me.
Originally posted by rmerikle
Or better asked, "What am I saving doing it myself?"
Okay, I won't get myself started here otherwise I might not stop;). But seriously there are other benefits from doing the job yourself besides a few bucks. Short term: professional detailer cheaper. Long term: better results than from most professional detailers, cheaper to do it yourself.
If you just want to make the car look pretty one time and don't care about it the rest of the time (GASP :eek: ) then you could go to a professional detailer, but I wouldn't recommend it too strongly. You will save money in the long term, even if you get addicted to trying new stuff like most of us are. Consider $100 every few months or $:eek::eek::eek:.00 to do it yourself for a long time (high startup cost to detail).
Just my $0.005
Posted 07 December 2001 - 07:05 PM
I haven't taken my car to a detailer because I like doing the work myself. I've considered it on ocassion though when I'm feeling lazy or I want a good job on the interior or engine bay, since I am not as excited about doing those myself.
But I would expect 9 out of 10 detailers will return my black car with more swirls than it had when I gave it to them. I would be VERY, VERY choosy in picking any detailer that was going to work on my paint, and I would use the knowledge I've gained here and from my own experence to interview them very carefully beforehand. I would prefer to check references and even find one of their customers' black cars (no matter what color car you have, ask to see a nonmetallic BLACK car they maintain.)
Posted 07 December 2001 - 07:11 PM
BTW, great advice carguy gave with the asking to see a non-metallic black car they maintain regularly. You want to see a car they did not just do as they may have put a silicone spray on top which hides the swirls. If you don't see swirls, this stuff is probably there, unless the detailer is _really_ good.
Posted 07 December 2001 - 07:19 PM
If you are trying to justify the expense of the products and time required I do not believe there is a price.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a detailer who would use KLASSE. They tend to buy products in large bulk form that are easy on easy off so they can do a lot of cars a day.
Some detailers may use some good products but they are more likely to be mobile ones and not the guy onthe corner with the dogs chained to the fence with 20 cars out front washing them from the same single bucket.
My Website Which needs some detailing as well.....
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2002 Chevy Avalanche
Posted 07 December 2001 - 07:31 PM
BTW I live here in the San Francisco area
Posted 07 December 2001 - 08:05 PM
As I am doing this, a good friend of mine rolls up in is Infinity. When it comes to cars he is the exact opposite of me. The extent of his car detailing is he takes his car through those free car washes at the gas stations. If he really wants to impress the ladies, then he goes to a full service car wash.
It just amazes me how badly some people abuse there cars. You would think that with the amount of money and the amount of time we Americans spend in our cars that we would take better car of them.
Posted 07 December 2001 - 09:51 PM
Just my 0.02 cents
Posted 08 December 2001 - 12:06 AM
Posted 08 December 2001 - 12:42 AM
You'll be lucky to find a shop that will apply Klasse for you. I have yet to find one that uses it. They haven't discovered it yet I don't think.
In the end you will probably pay about 150 - 200 bucks to have that kind of treatment done on your car. To do it yourself you will save all of that. If you take into account actual product useage then you will probably spend about 5 bucks of your Klasse. You might spend about 5 bucks of your clay bar depending on how much your car needed it. You might spend about 5 bucks of your other detailing stuff doing up the interior as well.
Of course, if you don't have any Klasse then you will have to buy it and the same for everything else. I think that if you invested $100 in some detailing supplies and only detailed your own car then you could do your car every week for 6 months without a problem. If you decided to make a business out of it then all you would have to do is charge one person for a detail and you will have paid off half of your investment.
Professional detail shops have their uses but if you have the desire to do it yourself then you can save some big bucks and make even bigger bucks.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Posted 08 December 2001 - 12:58 AM
As about products used on the car, take a look at the person or persons doing the work. They look like they just got out of the gutter most of the time. TRUST... no way baby!!!!!
1997 Dark Blue Toyota 4Runner (Wifes wheels)
Posted 08 December 2001 - 01:02 AM
Posted 08 December 2001 - 04:00 AM
Like you said, it's the prep before the sealant that does the trick. This is what we would be going for because it's the most time consuming and difficult part.
I would even be willing to say, hey do the prep and then you're done. Most of the problems people have is if the prep work is bad, they seal it the best temporary make up can offer and it looks great for as long as the makeup lasts. But then it's ruined. Course that's a worse case scenario, but you get the idea.
I would only go to a autoint approved detailer (or a highly reputable referred one, where I could see examples). If I had a car that needed serious prep, I might consider, but lucky for me prep is easier on my newer car.
Posted 08 December 2001 - 03:34 PM
Couldn't agree with you more. When I bought my vehicle (2001 Pontiac Aztek keep it to a dull roar I'm the only one that has to like it) I wouldn't even let them move the car. I negotiated my deal, signed all the paper work then insisted they move it from the showroom outside, I then chalked the tires and told them if they moved it the deal was off. It was raining steadily that day and told them not to wash or chamois the vehicle or the deal was off. Went back the next day the car was wiped down and had been moved. My salesmen wasn't there and I almost had to kill the manager to get out of the deal. Two weeks later I successfully bought the same vehicle at another dealership from the showroom and they followed my instructions to the tee. Most service people that deal with your vehicle couldn't care less it is just a bucket of bolts that has to be cleared off the lot. Same principle holds true to alot of detail shops it's just a job 40hrs. a week to pay the bills, much of the time pride has nothing to do with it
Posted 08 December 2001 - 06:03 PM
I had some troubles when buying the Passat. This guy was going to charge me full sticker price, and he even took money from my credit card to ship the vehicle (said it was for a credit check on the phone) When I alerted his boss, he pointed and yelled and called me liar, like a principle yelling at some kid (didn't help that I looked like some kid ) but that wasn't the point. We worked the price down to invoice and I was like, see ya! Never set foot in that place again.
When I finally got my car at another dealer, I was promised everything haha. What I got was charged for keeping the salesman late, and the next time I came in there was no free rental or pickup or anything I was promised way back when (thanks I get for buying the priciest car in the lot.)
Also a tip (for everyone else), when getting financing really check their math. I took in my phat calculator and beat out their computers. They were like here's you monthly payment and I was like um that's too high, and they were like, but that's the interest and the payment. I told them the calculator doesn't lie. He then said, so you don't want the accidental death insurance added to your payment. Hahah duh! Some people have some nerve, he did say no one's ever calculated their own payment before haha. So it does pay to do your homework; I did get it at invoice.
I hate dropping my car off and doing a crap shoot, so I will probably never go to a detailer, only cause of my lack of control over my baby.
Jason is stopping by next summer and he can do our other cars, but not the Passat
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