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#1 longarm

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Posted 06 July 2004 - 10:00 PM

Has anyone in here ever used Teflon Based Sealants? I came across two different brands, one of them was called "Paint Proof," it is made by a company called Vesco Oil. From my understanding, only dealerships and and places like that can obtain this stuff. I called Vesco Oil and talked to their distrubitor and he told me that this stuff is not available to the public and he was surprised to hear that I even came across a bottle for my personal use. From what I know it's a winterizer or paint protectant. It will resist salt, corrosion, rust spots, tree sap, enviornmental fallout, bird droppings, ect... The dealership will charge you abouy $200-$250.00 depending on the size of your vehicle to apply this stuff. A friend of mine works in a dealership and gave me some of this stuff. He said that this stuff would last about a year on my paint as far as protection. I put some on my Sporttrac when I forst got it and the surface is still smooth to the touch and that was this past March. I was wondering of anyone in here knows of any pro's / cons of using this stuff, or if anyone has any general knowledge of this stuff at all? Thanks in advance.
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Posted 06 July 2004 - 11:49 PM

I've said it many times and I'll say it again. Teflon is only a surface smoothner and gloss enhancer. It does not protect. Most of the dealership used protection products are gimmicks that don't last. Teflon would not be the base ingredient. I have a few products with teflon in them and they work well but there are alot of gimmicks out there that do nothing. If you wanted to protect a car from fallout, give the paint a great clean, some IHG and at least two coats of a world class paint sealant and top with a wax if you want to although it's not really necessary with some sealants.

The AUTOSMART distributor told me the other week that their silver seal paint sealant is sold to dealerships who pay $75 for it and they charge up to $250 to treat a car and they get four cars out of one bottle. MAJOR RIP OFF
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#3 longarm

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 04:37 AM

From what my brother told me, this stuff is supposed to be awsome stuff. I'll get the contents off the bottle and put them in here when I get time, probably tomarrow. WHat is a world class sealant? What is curing time on most sealants? This is my work/commuter car, so I want to keep it protected and looking as nice as possible. Would you put a thick caranuba wax over the sealant? I also have the problem of bugs getting plastered all over the front bumper.

Has anyone heard of this stuff called "5 Star Shine Car Wax?" It sounds too good to be true.

http://www.5starshine.com/
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#4 OneCleanCL

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 05:56 AM

I use this stuff called 'Exotic Super Gloss', which has Teflon in it. Its made by Granitize, and i get it from one of my vendors. I've used it for quite a while, and always gotten great results. I've then always put a carnauba on as a topper.

#5 TOGWT

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 06:06 AM

~One man’s opinion / observations ~

Truth- “If it sounds too good to be true it probably is”

Teflon ®:
A synthetic polymer formula produced by Du Pont Chemicals, they state;” The addition of a Teflon® fluoropolymer resin does nothing to enhance the properties of any car wax, we have no data that indicates the use of Teflon® to be beneficial in car waxes. Teflon® requires a temperature of 680oF for it to "sinter" or bond to a surface.”

Lifetime Paint Protection:
There is no polymer, synthetic or natural wax, or after-market product available that can provide lifetime protection to a paint film surface.

The primary protection provided for a modern water-based colour coat is a polythene resin that has a thickness of 2-3 Mils (0.002-0.003”) this is protected by a sacrificial barrier of wax or synthetic polymer sealant.

This barrier is all that stands between the environmental contaminants (UV radiation, acid rain, ozone, industrial pollution, rain, road dirt and tar, etc) and the paint film surface. This renewable barrier is less than 0.000001” thick.

While its true that a polymer resins melting point is 350+oF, it is still subject to evaporation and erosion by the elements and vehicle washing. However its durability is approximately five or six months.
The technology for a lifetime protection for a vehicles paint film surface does not currently exist.


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#6 longarm

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Posted 07 July 2004 - 07:48 AM

WOW! Thanks for the speedy replies. Keep em comming. Well, both of my cars are dark colored. My 04 Sporttrac is Redfire Metallic and my 03 Focus is Black. SO, would it be best to use a cleaner /polisher to take the swirl marks out, then use that Teflon stuff, and top it off with a good caranuba wax? I just bought a PC polisher and will be using those Sonus pads from this website. That P21S is probably what I'll use for a finish coat. Does it work well with the PC? Hows my game plan sound so far? :confused: Thanks again everybody.:xyxthumbs
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Posted 08 July 2004 - 02:59 PM

How's it going? I work for 5 Star Shine and here are some links regarding the product. There are people on the threads that have had it on their vehicles for over a year without loss of protection. As with any sealant or wax, surface preparation is very important.

Teflon on its own will not adhere to a car's surface as the Dupont release above correctly stated. The formula that makes up 5 Star Shine is what holds the teflon in place once applied. We can talk technical details all day long, but what ultimately matters is whether or not it works.

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http://nicoclub.com/...&threadid=48193
http://nicoclub.com/...&threadid=45700
http://nicoclub.com/...&threadid=44819
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