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#1 GoodnClean

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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:24 PM

Well guys, it was 55 degrees here today, so its making me think of that spring detail I'm gonna do...

So far I've ironed out what I'm going to do, the only wildcard is the abrasive polish. I have DACP, #9, SMR, PI-III-MG. I like DACP on other finishes, but for some reason on the Lexus I just can't get it to break down enough and leave a pristine finish. There really isn't anything serious on the car, just some micro-marring from washing it in the salty nasty winter weather, really got to crane and try to see it. I was planning on using PI-III-MG with a yellow pad then following up with PwC and a white pad, but am looking for another product to take the place of the PI-III (I'm not sure it will be abrasive enough).

What does everyone think? Menzerna, Megs Speed Glaze? I'm open to any and all suggestions, any experiences comparing these products to DACP and PI-III-MG will be extra super great.

Or, maybe the PI-III-MG will be enough...

Thanks gang :xyxthumbs
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#2 breakneckvtec

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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:37 PM

I would use DACP and then follow it with #9 to remove any of the fine micro marring, but I hate to screw around with things that MIGHT do the job. I usually go against the autopian grain and use a heavy hitter like DACP to KO the swirls and then step down if need be. The way I see, and lets face it, its not like your going to go through the clear using DACP a few times a year. Dont mess around, take them swirls out the first time :xyxthumbs
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#3 Frank F.

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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:39 PM

I just finished my black Porsche C4S. The car is three months old. I started with Menzerna IP and then FP. I was worried that the IP would be too abrasive for a new black car so I tried it on my motorhome. The IP did not leave swirl marks but it did cloud the finish a little. When I followed this with the FP the result was excellent. Next I used the Klasse twins and finally P21S Carnauba. I have learned a lot from this forum.

Thanks everyone.

#4 GoodnClean

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Posted 10 February 2004 - 04:43 PM

I like DACP for removing swirls on most finishes, but I just can't get it down right when it comes to the Lexus. I was thinking maybe something like the Menzerna twins would remove the marring and do it in a slightly more precise (the only word I can think of to describe it) manner...
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#5 Accumulator

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 08:54 AM

The 3M PI-III RC (pn 05933) is a lot milder than it sounds. Maybe IT would work better for you than the DACP. Then follow up with the MG. Some paints just respond better/worse to certain products than do other paints :nixweiss .

I myself REALLY like the 1Z line of polishes, maybe they'd be worth a look.

Plenty of people like the Menzerna polishes, there are so many good choices these days.
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#6 SamIam

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 09:04 AM

i agree with your choices.

I used to use the 3MRC and it worked pretty well in removing some scratches, followed up with 3M SMR FDC.

Now I use 1Z polishes, got the whole product line waiting for the weather to clear up. At first, I wasn't sold on the Paint Polish, but then I pulled the car out into the daylight and it was: WOW. This stuff works.

Works great by hand or machine.

#7 GoodnClean

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 04:07 PM

The 1Z polishes confuse me a little, I'll have to do some searching.

Thanks guys, keep the advice commin!
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#8 Jesstzn

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 07:47 PM

I have had good luck with the Menzerna on my B5.5 .. used the IP where needed and the FP all over. And will again if spring ever gets here again. I like it cuz its water based and no fillers.

This was prepped with menzerna

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#9 GoodnClean

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 09:23 PM

They're relatively inexpensive, I suppose its worth a try!
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#10 chrisd

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 10:51 PM

I'm kind of partial to the 3M stuff. I know their products are expensive, but I've never had any problems with hazing or micromarring, whether using my rotary or my PC. Also, their pads and backing plates are among the best quality I've seen. I think 3M's use of the name "rubbing compound" turns off many people with nice paint. But like a lot of people have said here, if you stick with the fine-cut and use reasonable speeds/pressure, it's not all that aggressive. I'm not recommending you use it on a regular basis, but it's certainly nothing like the old scratch-inducing products of yesteryear that also went by the name "rubbing compound".
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Posted 12 February 2004 - 05:26 AM

Quote: I just finished my black Porsche C4S. The car is three months old. I started with Menzerna IP and then FP. I was worried that the IP would be too abrasive for a new black car so I tried it on my motorhome. The IP did not leave swirl marks but it did cloud the finish a little. When I followed this with the FP the result was excellent. Next I used the Klasse twins and finally P21S Carnauba. I have learned a lot from this forum.


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Frank F: Did I understand correctly, IP-FP-AIO-SG-P21S?

Why I’m questioning it is AIO contains a solvent cleaner and will remove anything else on the paint film surface. Its primary function is as a pre-cleaner to SG (or whatever wax sealant)


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#12 SuperBuick

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 06:28 AM

TOGWT - I think his process makes sense because the menzerna line of polishes does not leave anything behind after you remove it. They are water-based with no fillers, so using AIO after polishing with the IP and FP isn't "removing" anything. True, it's cleaning abilities are going to waste because the menzerna polishes have already done that job and more, but I don't think using the AIO in there is causing any harm or removing anything on the paint surface, because with menzerna, there shouldn't be anything left over to remove (no oils or fillers)

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#13 breakneckvtec

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Posted 12 February 2004 - 07:29 AM

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TOGWT, I have to ask, WTF is this? I see it in all your posts and quite frankly, not to be a ****....its annoying trying to figure out where your post is in this garbage.
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