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#1 Trinidrift3

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 05:42 PM

Hey guys! i hate to make a thread for this, but after searching i am just not satisfied with my finds. i painted my s13 one month ago. the paint has been curing for a month and is time for me to finally start taking care of the paint. i have never owned a red car.

what wax or sealant do you recommend on a red car? i am not sure which i want. i basically want whatever will make the car look best, and not what will last the longest (though if it lasts long that is cool too :heh:)

the color is ppg bmw crimson red. paint code a61. its a 2 stage solid red.

lasting ability: doesnt matter as much. the longer the better
price: not too concerned with, but within reason. car is used for drifting and daily driving so it experiences all the elements
what i want out of it: i want the red paint to have the wet deep glossy look, but i also want the red to really pop and give off a vibrant feel.

so far i have considered:

chemical guys jet seal
black diamond wet diamond
pinnacle souveran
various dodo's
and a few others

and i plan to wash, clay, use P21S Paintwork Cleanser, wax/seal, and then use Dodo Juice Red Mist Tropical Protection Detailer
thank you sooooo much. i truely appreciate any advise on any products or steps i can take to take care of my ps13.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:22 PM

Pinnacle Souveran is probably the best bet but I would also try CG50/50.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:51 PM

Pinnacle Souveran is probably the best bet but I would also try CG50/50.

thanks man. i havent looked at chemical guys 50/50 yet. i'll check them out now
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#4 JOHN BAKER

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:55 PM

petes 53 is nice on reds

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 07:19 PM

I use BFWD and collinite 845 on my radiant red 08 tacoma and they both look great. BFWD has more of glossier look and lasts about 2-3 months (Depending on many factors) where as the 845 has more of a warmth look and lasts 4-5 months (again depending on many factors)so its gonna be personal preference in the end. Just a side note, i would make sure i asked whoever painted your car how long you should what before applying a wax/selant as most recommend 60 to 90 days for total curing.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:25 AM

Be sure the paint is clean. P21S should be ok. Then BFWD or my favorite HD POXY. Top with Souveran and you will have a awesome look. HD POLISH is another option for cleaning. And Dan's 50/50 would work very well. My RX8 is red and I love to detail it.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 08:48 AM

I will say that HD NITRO SEAL will look better than the above mentioned products. All nice btw, but if you want the most pop and deep gloss, NITRO SEAL is the product. Durability is also superior to the the other products.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:17 AM

.. most recommend 60 to 90 days for total curing.


That 90 days (minimum) what I always do, no matter what the painter says. I've seen some pretty dramatic hardening take place around month-2 or so even with baked/catalyzed paints.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:18 PM

Something that is durable, carnauba deep and easy on and off in the sun would be HD Poxy.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:37 PM

Yeah, Poxy is another great choice, super easy to use and great results.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:24 PM

thanks a lot everyone. i am looking into the hd nitro seal. if i use that, so do i still use P21S Paintwork Cleanser under it? i heard it has to bond directly to the paint. also would using a carnuba wax like dodo's supernatural over nitro seal make a difference?
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#12 Thomas Dekany

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:38 PM

you want to have a clean paint. Meaning wash, clay, polish and Nitro Seal. To be sure, I'd do an IPA wipe real quick.

Honestly, once you see how Nitro seal looks, you don't want to mute that shine. But it is of course up to you. You can put the dodo on top. Wait a day or so.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 05:00 PM

ok thanks. looks like im going with

cg maxi suds, pinnacle ultra poly clay bar, p21s paintwork cleaner, ipa wipe 50/50, hd nitro seal, and dodo juice red mist. i may go with cg pete's 53 on top of nitro seal but i'll decide after i use nitro seal.

thanks again, and i'll update when i finish
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:14 PM

Scot, with Poxy, do you still let it sit for 30 minutes while in the sun before removing? Or is that not necessary?


Still needs to sit a bit. I went back over the tires and polished the muffler and tip while letting it set up.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 03:32 AM

I was informed by Dr. G that both OCW and OS are safe for fresh paint, and have heard this from other reputable sources. I also called PPG last week for a client who was given bad info from his paint supplier. Their tech guy told me 90 days before waxing/sealing, but he might not be familiar with Optimum products and was giving their standard answer. Maybe just stick with OCW until the 90 days has gone by?
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Posted 27 June 2012 - 05:44 AM

I was informed by Dr. G that both OCW and OS are safe for fresh paint, and have heard this from other reputable sources. I also called PPG last week for a client who was given bad info from his paint supplier. Their tech guy told me 90 days before waxing/sealing, but he might not be familiar with Optimum products and was giving their standard answer. Maybe just stick with OCW until the 90 days has gone by?


hmmm my painter told my 30 days..... maybe i'll just wait 60 days then. i dont like driving around with no protection

also can anyone suggest any polish i can use as paint correction on new paint and something for a car from 2008 with all original paint thats a little dull? i am going to pick up a porter cable but i have never used a da before
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Posted 27 June 2012 - 07:43 AM

My Porsche restoration painter (he uses PPG) told me 30 days on a panel(s) that he personally paints.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 09:58 AM

Yeah, last I heard Ford had approved OCW for use on post-production paintwork. I'm *almost* tempted to use that on the freshly painted A8 bumpercover. Almost but...nah :grinno: I'm sticking to my Meguiar's New Car Glaze.

hmmm my painter told my 30 days..... maybe i'll just wait 60 days then. i dont like driving around with no protection..


Some glazes offer a bit of protection. I can't recall ever having problems when I used M05 or 3M IHG, but it's not like they'll hold up to bird bombs or anything like that.

also can anyone suggest any polish i can use as paint correction on new paint and something for a car from 2008 with all original paint thats a little dull? i am going to pick up a porter cable but i have never used a da before


I'd sure pick a different polisher (Griot's or Meguiar's or 3D/HD)...but as for the polish, you might need something different for the two applications as the fresh paint might be softer until it cures. The short answer these days is probably Uno and the 3D/HD finishing polish, but OTC stuff like Meguiar's Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish work OK too.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 04:35 AM

well i finshed the car yesterday and im quite unhappy with hd nitro seal. my hood is covered in streaks....not sure what i did wrong. and in the end even areas that are not streaking do not look any different then when they didn't have nitro seal on in.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 05:49 PM

well i finshed the car yesterday and im quite unhappy with hd nitro seal. my hood is covered in streaks....not sure what i did wrong. and in the end even areas that are not streaking do not look any different then when they didn't have nitro seal on in.


Nothing is more disappointing then streaks.....Maybe I can help? Can you explain in detail exactly the process you used to apply the Nitro Seal? I've applied NS to dozens of cars and haven't had any streaking?

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