Good hand guns - Page 4

GearHead_1 · 04-29-07, 11:11

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Originally Posted by EdLancer

You Americans talk about buying firearms like buying something at a Walmarts, this thread would have gotten police concerned in Canada ..LoL

Yes we do and it's great.

kbshadow · 04-29-07, 12:43

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Originally Posted by EdLancer

, this thread would have gotten police concerned in Canada ..LoL

Your right, also it would have in Russia, China, Cuba and most countries with a Dictator.

Way2SSlow · 04-29-07, 06:43

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Originally Posted by Way2SSlow

If you are considering a RAMI, DONT GET THE ONE CHAMBERED IN .40 S&W! They jam like you wouldnt believe. Not only that, but CZ has had my bud's .40 RAMI for 3 months and they keep telling him they dont know what's wrong with it. Surf the gun forums and you'll see that it's pretty common with the .40 S&W version.

Well, I'm quoting myself for a CZ update. As I had metioned, my bud sent his RAMI back and they couldnt fix it. It's a known problem with the .40 cal versions said the CZ rep. Kudos to CZ because they sent him a NIB 9mm version of the pistol (even though it took them a while). Perfect time for this thread to resurface as we took it to the range today for the first time. The 9mm ran better than the .40, but we put about 120 rounds through it and had probably 7 or 8 jams. A few feeding issues as well as a couple fail to fire issues. We're both experienced shooters, so limp wristing or any other shooter error was ruled out. I think I personally shot 3 or 4 mags through it and two of them were trouble free. I told my bud we should probably put atleast 100 more through it before he makes his decision, but I think it's as good as gone. It's a real bummer too, because the gun is definitely comfortable in the hand even with the three finger grip on the 10 round mag. It isn't too jumpy and it seems pretty accurate. Just thought I would add that to this thread.

BMW335i · 04-29-07, 07:29

I'm thinkin the gun talk should be on the down low nowadays...

BTW: To the person who commented on us "Americans" buying guns like takin a trip to Wal-Mart - It's not like this all over America. Where I live, most people don't carry guns. You mainly see that in rural America (to shoot wild animals i guess?), and high crime cities.

The problem is, guns are so readily available here its insane.

GearHead_1 · 04-29-07, 07:37

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Originally Posted by BMW335i

I'm thinking the gun talk should be on the down low nowadays...

I on the other hand think there needs to be more open discussion about firearms and protecting the Second Amendment. Just goes to show you different strokes for different folks. I might agree that a detailing forum isn't necessarily the best place to do it.

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Originally Posted by BMW335i

You mainly see that in rural America (to shoot wild animals i guess?), and high crime cities.

My only response to this comment is that I think you need to get out more. I believe you would be surprised if you actually knew who the upstanding legal owners of firearms are and where they live. By the way many gun owners are not hunters.

Accumulator · 04-30-07, 12:06

Way2SSlow- Interesting about those problems with the (new) CZ, woudn't have expected that in the 9mm version. Wonder if it's just ammo-sensitive...you know how some autos can be. Wonder what CZ might suggest

I'd never feel OK with something that malfunctioned like that, but then I'm a bit of a fanatic about reliability if the piece is meant for serious work. Sometimes it just takes a little tweaking (by somebody good) to solve such problems, but these days I'd expect better right out-of-the-box, especially for a 9mm that was designed for that caliber.

Danase · 04-30-07, 12:14

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Originally Posted by BMW335i

I'm thinkin the gun talk should be on the down low nowadays...

BTW: To the person who commented on us "Americans" buying guns like takin a trip to Wal-Mart - It's not like this all over America. Where I live, most people don't carry guns. You mainly see that in rural America (to shoot wild animals i guess?), and high crime cities.

The problem is, guns are so readily available here its insane.

In my opinion if there where more law abiding citizens carrying and allowed to carry in more places, instances like Virginia Tech and so on would not have escalated to as many deaths as they did.

I think more people carry than you might think. if you have a concealed weapon permit your firearm is concealed and you would never know if the guy/woman standing next to you in line at the grocery store was carrying or not.

I think the problem is the general publics ignorance toward guns and gun laws. I absolutely hate when a gun crime is committed and people want guns banned. It makes NO sense to me at all! The people committing gun crimes usually don't have legal guns. Banning guns won't stop them from getting them illegally, like they already do, and use them. Murder is illegal but that did not stop them. The only thing banning guns from the law abiding citizens is going to do is hurt those law abiding citizens and keep them from protecting themselves.

Danase · 04-30-07, 12:17

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

Way2SSlow- Interesting about those problems with the (new) CZ, woudn't have expected that in the 9mm version. Wonder if it's just ammo-sensitive...you know how some autos can be. Wonder what CZ might suggest

I'd never feel OK with something that malfunctioned like that, but then I'm a bit of a fanatic about reliability if the piece is meant for serious work. Sometimes it just takes a little tweaking (by somebody good) to solve such problems, but these days I'd expect better right out-of-the-box, especially for a 9mm that was designed for that caliber.

CZ has always had magazine issues. I have a CZ-83 and the original 10 round magazine would jam up all of the time but CZ sent out a new 12 round to replace it and it works flawlessly.

Accumulator · 04-30-07, 01:19

Danase- I'm not up to speed on the various CZ variants, but I'm guessing that you guys are discussing various small/chopped frame models.

I wonder if the full-size models have these isses (at least in 9mm)

Danase · 04-30-07, 01:25

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Originally Posted by Accumulator

Danase- I'm not up to speed on the various CZ variants, but I'm guessing that you guys are discussing various small/chopped frame models.

I wonder if the full-size models have these isses (at least in 9mm)

Yeah, I think their Rami is considered a sub compact and my 83 a compact. I have not heard of issues with the larger guns but I don't know too many people who have them. One good thing is that CZ bought Dan Wesson's name and those guns are supposed to be awesome!